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You're laborers...you're supposed to be laboring!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by DrFrylock, Sep 3, 2010.

  1. DrFrylock

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    This weekend is Labor Day weekend in the United States, where we celebrate having Monday off, the painful process of women giving birth, our lack of a third political party that plagues Britain, and our right to remove unnecessary 'u's from English words.

    Oh, and workers or something.

    FOCUS: What is the best part of your job? What is the worst part of your job?
     
  2. audreymonroe

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    I work for an iPhone app.

    The worst part about it is that it started out great with a lot of promises. A month and a half in, a long boring work story event happened and now everything's changed. They were never the best at managing, and now they don't seem to give a shit about the app anymore, so the two together are a combination fit for disaster. I'm only getting 6 hours week and keep only getting scheduled for the worst shift ever, they barely ever write us anymore and don't respond to emails. (It sounds like I'm talking about a boyfriend.) It's lame. I'm so angry that I thought I was all set with a job that actually somewhat relates to what I want to do, and now I'm desperately seeking out stupid day jobs all over again so I can afford to live here.

    Also, I've had a million customer service jobs growing up, but they only dealt with a specific, local brand of idiots. Now, I'm dealing with idiocy on a global scale. I can't believe how stupid people can be.

    Also, it's a fashion app, but somehow a third of my time is being a personal therapist to 13 year olds and their boy problems.

    The best part of my job is that, even though I'm now getting up at an hour I never thought I'd see again from either direction, I'm at work right now and sitting on my bed, in my nightgown, with a kitten on my lap and spending most of the time fucking around on the internet and watching Netflix. And it pays pretty decently at that (especially if I had more than 6 hours a week...)

    Also, when it comes to jobs, no matter how much this one makes me angry, I still know that this one is a pretty easy and sweet deal. I try to remind myself of this every time I want to punch someone through the computer screen...
     
  3. Frank

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    I went from a 50,000+ person soul crushing corporation as a call center rep that eventually got promoted to an analyst to a 2 person (I'm the second guy) actuarial consulting firm, so my perception is probably a little skewed. I've done the pros and cons of general actuarial work before so I'll get a little more specific about my job.

    Good:

    - Best: My creativity and problem solving skills are utilized and appreciated, rather than swept under the rug and being told "we don't pay you to think"
    - I generally work less than 30 hours/week, but I still make more than the 60+ hour/week analysts at the last place and have a better benefits package
    - My boss is probably the smartest person I've ever met
    - Flexible schedule: I come in and leave when I want, I usually take a 1.5-2 hour lunch to hit the gym
    - I actually like what I do
    - Zero stress
    - No office drama

    Bad:

    - Worst: It's in Connecticut
    - Our clients usually send us sloppy data, cleaning it usually takes longer than doing what we actually get paid to do
    - Working in a small office I have to remember to turn off the lights and AC, lock the door and clean up after myself- this was always done for me
    - The zero stress thing makes the days bleed together, I don't even get excited for weekends anymore because I don't have anything I want to escape.
    - I make a little less than most people in my profession (from a pure salary standpoint, hourly pay plus benefits I crush them)
    - No office comradery, we don't do party lunches and holiday events where everyone gets hammered after work.

    Clearly the good outweighs the bad by a significant amount, not really planning to leave anytime soon.
     
  4. charlie

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    I'm a Medical Laboratory Scientist. I work in a laboratory running tests on biological specimens like blood, urine, stool, CSF, etc. I'm a generalist, so I work in every area, which includes hematology, chemistry, urinalysis, toxicology, blood banking, and microbiology.

    Pros:

    - It's a pretty fast-paced environment. I work overnights, where anything and everything can happen. My favorite is blood bank, especially trauma situations. The adrenaline rush is awesome.
    - It pays decently right out of college. I was hired 6 months before I graduated college in one of the worst economic situations ever, with a salary well above the national average. I can certainly not say the same for some of my friends.
    - I still get to work in medicine, which is what I wanted to do all along, and I really don't have to see patients. I worked in pharmacy for 7 years before I worked in the lab, and I have to say, medicine is even a customer service, and customer service sucks. It really got old having people yell at me because they're sick and they're mad about it. I empathize, but there's not much I can do but do my job to the best of my ability.

    Cons:

    - The overnight shift kind of sucks. Luckily, I'm moving to evenings soon. There's a lot of drama on my shift since there's only eight of us. There's always drama in jobs, but it gets a little bit ridiculous on our shift. I've never wanted to punch someone at my job more than my coordinator on nights. I've also found myself with horrible insomnia since starting the overnight shift.
    - There isn't enough respect from nurses. I'm constantly treated like I don't know what I'm doing or talking about, when I have more education than a lot of them. There's no recognition for what we actually do in the laboratory or what it's really about. That's not necessarily anyone's fault, it's just frustrating.
    - I do not have time for a social life. My friends are going to the bar at 10? I'm going to work. Blows.
    - That whole spilling poop on myself at least once a week thing is kind of a downer.
     
  5. rei

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    I'm in the "Grad" program IT Stream at one of Canada's largest grocery chains. I spent five months stocking shelves (at salary) and am now moving through various IT segments getting a feel for how things work. I just left Infrastructure Operations Intake where I babysat spreadsheets and forwarded design tickets to people who actually have real work to do. I'm moving over to Release Management which will likely be digging through databases and forwarding relevant information to people who have real work to do.

    Pro:
    I do almost nothing for a fairly decent entry level salary.

    Con:
    I do almost nothing. Seriously you get bored and really curious how this is going to pay off in terms of return on resume.

    More seriously I get a permenant role and a raise in June, should be all good then, worth getting the year and a half of seeing the company etc, and they have awesome benifits.
     
  6. Nick

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    I'm VP of Development/M&A for a large healthcare company in Louisville.

    The Pros:
    I make a pretty good living and the stress level at my job is usually pretty low
    I get to know a lot of CEOs and executive teams by virtue of what I do, so it's great for networking.
    It may sound corny, but my company takes care of some very sick people and is well-recognized for quality/outcomes. Even if I don't see our patients on a day to day basis, it's good to know that we're not just making widgets.
    We have operations in 40 states, so I get to travel anywhere from San Francisco to Cape Cod.

    The Cons:
    When you work for a company with 50,000+ employees, everything seems to move at snail pace.
    I had to move to Kentucky.
    Large for-profit healthcare companies often falsely get labeled as the big bad greedy bastards, even though our outcomes and patient care far surpass that of the small mom-and-pop operations. Just like the rest of the world, I haven't had a raise in 3 years, nor have any of my co-workers.
    Because we are large, are for-profit, and have an obligations to our board/shareholders, I spend 25-35% of my time "reporting" stuff versus actually "doing" stuff.
    Our bathrooms have terrible toilet paper.
     
  7. Elset

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    I write (LabVIEW) code for a small startup (4 full timers) right now that's in the business of measuring/inspecting cylinders.

    Pros:
    -Small company where I'm the only programmer so I don't have to deal with people sucking, except myself.
    -If the company takes off, I assume I'll be the head of software development.
    -There seems to be lots of interest from prospective customers.
    -Learning a new language is always a plus, and I've since become a Certified LabVIEW Developer.
    -Rewriting software as I learn more is a good way to kill down time.

    Cons:
    -Our primary target is the auto industry. Consequently, interest doesn't turn into purchases. Or at least, hasn't yet.
    -Our grants are running out and if we don't start selling stuff we're going out of business in <18 months.
    -Unfortunately, my job includes doing data analysis which I know very little about and my boss assumes I'm an expert at it. We really need to hire an analyst but we can't afford it.
     
  8. WickedBitch

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    I work as a grunt in a small-chain video game store.

    • Pros:
    • I get to talk about video games all day.
    • 15% discount!
    • I get to talk to the townsfolk. I get to enjoy seeing every kid's excitement when they walk through the door.


    • Cons:
    • On my feet for up to 8 hours a day.
    • Lots of bending, stooping and contorting. I am almost 34 years old. Shit is starting to get a bit creaky.
    • They don't pay me enough to take advantage of the discount.
    • Talking to the townsfolk includes even the disgruntled ones. Ahhh, retail.
     
  9. scotchcrotch

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    I own a logistics company

    Pros- I set the rules, dress code, etc.

    Usually take monday off because I fucking hate monday

    7 figure income


    Cons-

    24/7 job

    Employee bullshit, having to be the ref or bad guy

    Stress is highest level of any job I've held

    Hundreds, if not thousands of phone calls a day

    No salary, no safety net

    Taxes for small businesses are brutal
     
  10. Bogan

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    I'm studying for a PhD (labrat) at the moment, but conditions are similar when we're finished (if we stay in academic research) so I'm going to count it.

    Pros:
    -Freedom to work on what we like (to a degree) and answer whatever questions pop into our heads. It's pretty satisfying when you discover something that nobody has looked at before
    -As a kid I loved to find out how things work, typically by taking apart my toys. Now I'm paid to do essentially that
    -Travel opportunities. Conference in New Orleans? Christchurch? Barcelona? Why yes, thank you.
    -Can work pretty much anywhere we choose overseas. I'm planning on moving to California or Germany next year.
    -The people I work with currently are pretty cool for the most part

    Cons:
    -The pay blows. I'm 25 and on a terribly low paying scholarship, while my tradie friends have bought houses. Even when we're qualified the pay isn't fantastic given the ~8-10 years spent at uni. I especially feel for scientists in the US, who are paid extremely poorly.
    -The hours. I typically work a 70+ hour week. In fact, it's 2:45 AM right now and I'm at my desk. (I did just get back from the pub 2 hours ago though)
    -Dealing with senior people who have been insulated in academia their whole professional lives. Scientists often have terrible people skills and can be very immature for such highly educated people.
    -No job security. Grant runs out, no more job for you.
    -The whole process of applying for and getting your own funding to start you own line of work seems to be more on how you play the system and who you know rather than what you know and how good your ideas are.

    Despite the negatives, I still love what I do. I once heard the head of the Pharmacology Department sum up his job as 'they pay me to play' which is pretty apt
     
  11. Nettdata

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    As has been stated a ton before, I do large-scale contract IT work on some fairly well known game systems.

    Pros:

    • Getting to build huge, global high-performance systems. That work. And work well. Major job satisfaction.

    • Instant street cred and amazing resume line items and the ability to look at just about any newspaper or game-related web site and say "yeah, I designed and led the team that implemented that stuff they're talking about...". Especially since they've all worked, and deployed flawlessly. Major wins.

    • No issue ever finding a job in the industry.


    Cons:

    • The complete insanity that is the bullshit politics. I don't do politics well. I opt to just not deal with it and check out. I've tried to do that more than a few times in the last 2 years, but they keep bribing me to come back. I keep letting them.

    • The stupid amount of hours we end up working, and reduced time for other recreational pursuits. They are sucking my will to live.
     
  12. eric

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    I am the owner of a small mechanical design firm, going on 10 years now.

    The Good

    1) Flexibility. Since I'm my own boss and I can work anywhere I have phone and internet access, my job allows me a high degree of freedom. As an example, it has allowed the wife and I to move to the cottage. This wouldn't be possible if I had to show up at an office every day.
    2) Income. Although the last 2 years have been on the slower side, in good years I generally make just under $200k.
    3) Tax efficiency. Since I work from home, many expenses (% of phone, electricity, property tax, etc) become a tax write-off. Anything even remotely related to what I do (electronics, computers) are purchased through my corporation. The income I take out of the company is strategically set to keep me out of the highest brackets while allowing me to max out my RRSP. Furthermore, I do income splitting with my wife (a.k.a. my secretary) so that everything isn't tax at my hands.

    The Bad

    1) Its a feast or famine type business. I'm either working like a dog or sitting idle for a month, looking for work.
    2) It can be stressful. Some customers are total assholes and completely unreasonable with regards to schedule. Designing plastic parts can be quite stressful, because the molds are expensive and there's little ability to correct mistakes once the molds are cut. The molds for small plastic parts are in the thousands, but a plastic assembly of any size will quickly climb into hundreds of thousands worth of tooling. There's alot of sleepless nights as the date of the first shots approaches, and I always, always feel noxious when putting the first shots together.
    3) It can be mind-numbing. 10 hours a day sitting at a computer, driving the mouse. Need I say more.
     
  13. goodlife23

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    I work for a state elected official.

    The Good:
    1. I'm in politics doing exactly what I want to do.
    2. My boss is incredibly respected across the aisle and is one of the very few in the state government that you can be proud to work for.
    3. I get to help constituents who have been given a shit deal in a lot of different ways (obtaining unemployment benefits and health care, helping constituents fight slumlords)
    4. I get to write legislation that hopefully will help people and make our state run better. It's pretty awesome when an idea you had becomes a law.

    The Bad:

    1. I make absolute shit money and spend a lot of my time assisting people who make millions with bullshit problems when I could be working on more important things.
    2. I have to listen to people complain about how awful our state government is (which it is). But they also complain about things they don't know the slightest thing about. Yet, because they are a constituent, I have to let them scream at me and then thank them for calling.
    3. There is no upward mobility within my office. The two people above me (aside from the rep) are not going anywhere since everyone loves working for our boss.
     
  14. Firefnd1982

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    I am a Paramedic, for the most part I love my job. I work 12hr shifts 5am-5pm at least 3 days a week Mon-Fri.

    A Run through a normal shift

    0500-0900 Arrive at the station, go back to sleep till around 0900 sometimes 10:00
    0900-10:30 Wake up, shower, clean up around the station, check ambulances for supplies and fuel
    10:30-12:00 Whatever you want to do, sleep more, surf the net, watch tv in a recliner, video games, etc
    12:00-13:00 Lunch
    13:00-17:00 Finish any special station projects, and more whatever you want to do

    Most days we only run a few calls (between two crews) within those 12hrs, but its unpredictable. We can have 0 calls for the day, or sometimes we won't see the station at all.

    Pro's

    - Paid to be professionally lazy
    - Big Screen HD TV with every channel you can imagine besides porn (unless you count skinemax)
    - Enough La-Z-Boy Recliners for an Army
    - Every person who works there for over a year and lives in town is a voting board member
    - The equipment is well stocked, never a shortage of supplies like other places i have worked
    - If we want a new piece of equipment all we need to do is have a good reason and have it work with the budget
    - I can take off any day i want to
    - Good people for the most part (a few rotten apples, but they are easily ignored/avoided)
    - Get to help people pretty much every day
    - The excitement and unpredictability of the job. There is something to be said for not knowing what you will be getting into next.

    Cons

    - The place i work for contracts us out from a large company so they don't have to be an employer themselves. This results in shitty wages (been doing this for 4 years and make $12.10 an hr) and poor benefits. I can't complain too much because we don't really work all that hard though.
    - In order for you to make the paid crew you have to work the volunteer side as well, which is an additional 12-36hrs a week of unpaid time. They are able to get away with this because they contract the paid crew, so technically you work for a different company when you are getting paid.
    - People who call 911 because they stubbed their toe, or have had a cold for the past x amount of days and want to go to the hospital.
    - Working holidays. I had to work New Years this year and my first call of the year was a guy who had a party with friends at his house, had a good night cleaned up the house with the wife. When he said goodnight to her and went upstairs he pulled out a .45 and took off the top of his head
    - Becoming emotionally jaded to your patient's relatives suffering... like the New Years call, dead guy with brains all over the floor didn't bother me at all, the screaming crying wife did. Not emotionally, i just wanted her to shut the hell up so i could get my information and get outta there.
    - Taking care of people you know sucks ass, I have had a few friends overdose.. not fun.


    All in all i have a great job, and still love it everyday. Are there some things I wish I could change? Absolutely. Are they a big enough deal to make me hate my job? Not a chance in hell.
     
  15. xrayvision

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    I am a radiologic technologist (x-ray tech).
    I currently do mobile x-ray and ekg and work for a company in Houston.

    Pros:
    Being mobile allows me freedom and independence from intrusive bosses and other superiors. I get to listen to whatever I want in the car and I never have to compromise on the radio. My ipod is king. I generally do less work than an x-ray tech in a hospital because my calls require me to travel rather far distances. I get less radiation exposure because I do less work. I get paid more than a tech in a hospital and I frequently get overtime. Most hospitals would rather be short staffed than give one minute of overtime. My dinner breaks can be as long as I want as long as there are no pending calls. After sundown, we are no longer allowed to go to patient's houses for calls...only nursing homes. But those generally get done during the day and afternoon, since they get priority. This being the case, I normally get to go home by 8 pm and sit on the couch and watch tv or play video games until my shift ends, while getting paid. I go to work at 3 pm, work about 5 hours and get paid for 8. I rarely get calls later in the evening.

    Cons:
    It can get incredibly lonely working a mobile 3-11 shift. I am alone all day because my roommates are either working or are in school. And then I go to work at 3 and sit in a car all day, alone. I have been incredibly depressed lately because of this. Some of our nursing homes are an hour and a half away. If I get an evening call, I can generally kiss about 4 solid hours away and will not get home until much later past the ending of my shift. I get overtime, but its not always worth it. The nursing staff in a lot of nursing homes are astoundingly incompetent. I would rather die than be placed under the care of these failures. This incompetence ends up with them placing unnecessary orders for x-rays on body parts that aren't ill or injured. This becomes even more infuriating when I am called in at 4:30 in the morning for absolutely nothing. I am better at my job than a lot of my co-workers and I have been in the field for far less time. A lot of my work is repeating their work, which also wastes my time.


    I generally love what I do and the benefits here are fantastic. But my job is to drive around all day and do an x-ray here and there. I'm not sure if the loneliness is really worth it.
     
  16. Disgustipated

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    I'm the legal director and part owner for a group of companies that do a range of things from property investment to internet billing solutions to finance.

    PROS:
    - I may have partners, but no one outranks me (they just out vote me).
    - I set the rules.
    - I walk in, walk out when I feel like it.
    - Every second friday is massage day.

    CONS:
    - On call 24/7.
    - Anything that lands on my desk is usually well past fucked up.
    - I bear ultimate responsibility for every cretin in the business, and they're supremely capable of not following precise directions.
     
  17. TJMax

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    I'm a paper pusher in the records bureau of a large police department.

    Pros:
    * Pays great, a lot more than teachers start at. Indeed, there is no God.
    * The job itself isn't incredibly difficult.
    * Department's big, so there's lots of room to go try different things. I'm considering a move to RHB, where the detectives will toss me reports to type, and I can learn more than I ever wanted to know about the despicable things human beings do to each other.
    * I'm in the police pension, which is like being in the Railroad Retirement Board, evidently: I don't pay into Social Security.

    Cons:
    * None with the job itself, really. There is one downside that stems from personal opinion (politics and whatnot), but even though I don't post under my full name here I don't want to go spouting off about it in public.
     
  18. Viking33

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    I'm a bar back and bouncer at a swanky modern hotel club voted "Best Bar", "Best Outdoor Bar" and "Best Singles Bar" for 2009 and 2010 in the regional magazine. We have two bars: one downstairs for the restaurant and one on the roof with indoor/outdoor seating and live entertainment.

    Pros:

    Pay. Bar backing I make a base $5.75/hr but I make 3% of total sales for the night as my tip out. If the bar does $10,000 in business on a given night, I make roughly $300 in tips. Working the downstairs bar I usually collect considerably less since we can't pack people 6 deep in front of the bar.

    Experience. I turn 21 on Thursday, yet I know more about scotch and whiskey than most grown men. If I work a day shift and the bar is slow, the bartender and I will experiment with drinks. The cocktail menu is constantly up for change if we discover something tasty. We also get tastings for new vodkas, whiskeys and beers.

    Interacting with customers. I can't do it as much upstairs with 200+ people all trying to get hammered and score some pink stink, but downstairs is usually a more relaxed crowd. I can make as much downstairs as I can upstairs if I have time to talk to tourists and hotel guests. They tip phenomenally for just a point in the right direction and a "My pleasure, ma'am/sir."

    Cons:

    Laziness. The upstairs bartenders pull their weight and can take care of themselves. The restaurant bartenders cannot. They will not touch dirty glassware. We hand wash ours and they won't do it. Period. Because they're busy? Nope, they'll have hands on their hips and an eye on Sportscenter for 20 minutes with 40 glasses in the sink piling up because I'm in the keg room working my ass off.

    Politics and backstabbing. It's a restaurant business and the downstairs bartenders and management have a habit of talking shit behind everyone's back. Servers, chefs, bar backs, the hotel engineer on site, all fair game. Disgusting.

    Hours. I work usually 4pm-1am depending on business and other bar backs. I do this every weekend and it sucks sometimes. I missed 4th of July fireworks for the first time ever this year because I was inside washing glassware.

    All in all it's not a bad job, but it's not for everyone. The hours suck, but the pay is good and if you can tune out bullshit it's good. I'm looking elsewhere though- personal training looks like a good place to start.


    All in all, it's good pay and a busy night makes time go by fast
     
  19. Crown Royal

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    I'm own a mobile D.J. Business and work as an operator in a strip metal factory.

    Pros

    Everything is a pro in a D.J. business. You get paid REALLY good money to play music for people and they like you for it. You can drink and smoke weed (secretly) while on the job and it's rearely stressful. Working as a machine operator is stupid-work which means it's good money for the same dozen or so tasks you perform. The money is the main reason I left sales to do sweaty grunt work again.

    Cons

    With D.J.'ing, you deal with drunks every time you work and sometimes they can be unnerving, such as the mother of the groom that dug her Ginsu-brand press-on nails into my arm so hard she drew blood in four seperate holes. Also, some of the music I get requested is stupifyingly awful. I've heard the song "Save A Horse Ride A Cowboy" over one hundred times, which is enough to drive some into mass ritual killing. In the plant, the only real cons aside from sweaty conditions and the occasional grease stain is my Lead Hand, a Euro-trash douche with a pontytail the is the company ass-licker, one of those total fucking assholes that says things like exactly like: "Pep-Pep people! Morning breaks are 15 minutes, not 16 minutes. We're not be paid to shit around!" Ding-dongs like him are one of the biggest drags in blue collar work, and they are many.
     
  20. Saint

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    I own a medium sized general engineering construction company. (We build roads, strip malls and the like.) If you are late for work because some asshole with a bulldozer and a lot of guys in reflective vests has the road shut down to one lane…your welcome.

    *PROS: - The money is really good once your bonding ability reaches a certain size.

    -Right or wrong it all falls back on me, which is great for people who believe they control their own destiny. (Read: control freaks)

    -The overall dollar volume is staggering, the margins aren’t that great but I would much prefer 10/15% of 5million than 30% of 50k. Why do you think the mob, cartels and any other shady endeavor with huge amounts of dirty money use large construction as fronts?

    -Regardless of how “refined” and businesslike your company may view itself, it is still at its core blue collar. No one watches their language for fear of offending someone, (except around clients of course) hell my office manager could make a sailor blush and she has been known to on occasion. When I go out to the field to check in with my superintendents, I always take the time to bust balls with the crews. Sure they know I’m the boss but they give as good as they get.

    -Mutual respect and pride in craftsmanship. These are a bunch of people who take pride in what they do and actually get to see the tangible finished product in use, rather than exported to whogivesafuckastan.

    CONS: -24/7 without a doubt. My phone starts ringing sometimes as early as 3am and doesn’t stop all day. Like I said it all falls back on me.

    -Playing wet-nurse to immature divas. I’m looking at you civil engineers. Congratulations you earned your degree and your stamp, but I can read and do math asshole, water will not flow up fucking hill. No I don’t give a shit what the computer says…your both dead ass wrong. You really want the community building sitting 11 feet above the rest of the complex, really? Fuck them and ignorant no field time inspectors too.

    -Volatility pure and simple. You can lose it all in a heartbeat, everything. If you accidentally cut a long distance fiber trunk line while working…step back, count to 5, the maximum amount of insurance you can buy is now capped out, drive straight to the bank while booking a flight to Costa Rica, withdraw every cent you can get your hands on, max your credit cards, and have a nice life. A developer can file chapter 7/11 and leave you holding a 7 figure bag. You might get pennies on the dollar years later but that doesn’t feed the bulldog today.

    -Regulation and do-gooder tree hugging hippie environmentalists. They are doing their best to put us all out of business and they aren’t even trying to hide it anymore. I hope they all choke on their vegan approved soy & cocksauce flavored granola. These are the same people who are the first to bitch to the city/county council when the roads are too rough for their dainty hybrid. Well where do you think that smooth road came from stupid? Yep, us.

    Sorry about the ranting length but...

    *most of these pros are before the current economic apocalypse. “It’s a brave new world boyos.”