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True Detective

Discussion in 'TV Shows' started by Crown Royal, Jan 1, 2014.

  1. Crown Royal

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    You're talking about the long, drawing shot at the end of last episode, right? The one that stood still on the water and the boat passing for so long it seemed like foreshadowing. You may just be right. Like "Alba Varden" in Leathal Weapon 2.
     
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    Can we just admit that HBO is far superior to ever other network?

    I'm guessing one of them dies. I'm thinking it will be Marty because Rust living with his crazy philosophy and isolation at this point would make for a perfect bitter sweet ending. I really don't know how it will end, I just hope there isn't some kind of super cheesy explanation for the murders. I would rather have none than a bad one.
     
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    Yes. And Cole shows Marty a map which has all the missing women and children on it. All near the water.
     
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    Somebody was saying that Reggie's tats had symbolism to them? You weren't kidding.

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    Wow, fantastic finish. I thought Rust was going to die, because he said previously he came back to Louisiana to finish this. I figured once he finished it, he'd pop himself off.

    That was one hell of a series. I can only imagine what kind of talent they can get now for season 2.
     
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    So here are my thoughts after watching the last episode:

    1. I don't have a clear idea of what the fuck happened. Either in the last showdown or with the entire plot.

    2. I need to watch the whole thing again.

    3. Matthew McConnaghey has come out of the nowhere of shitty romantic comedy and stoner movies to be one of the three finest actors I've ever seen. ALL of his scenes were beyond even his Oscar performance. Wow.
     
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    A perfect finale for a perfect show. And an UPLIFTING ONE too! The art director should get a medal for how that fortress was decorated. Insanely amazing and creepy-looking, reminded me a little of the vent shaft search in Alien.

    Rust's final breakdown with Marty in front of the hospital was soul-crushing, probably the most arresting scene of the series. I thought maybe Woody was stealing the final episode because he was so good until that scene. Jesus, McC owned that like nobody has EVER owned a TV role. I am in awe.

    If that wasn't the best police show ever made, then what the hell is? Now I have no choice but to froth at the mouth until the next, all-new story. If it's even half as good as season one than I am all over it.

    HBO has a completely flawless winner here.
     
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    By the way, worst fingerbang scene EVER.
     
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    I actually wasn't too enthused with the last episode. I don't think it was bad, but it was a slight let down compared to how great the rest of the season was. Rust wandering through the maze or whatever you want to call it seemed to take forever and the conclusion was just meh. Nothing earth shattering happened. I also wasn't a big fan of Rust's last scene talking about feeling his dead family members. Not terrible, but I would have enjoyed a brooding finish more. Personal taste I guess.

    Don't get me wrong though. Fucking amazing season, and hands down the best cop show I've ever seen. Matthew McConnaghey better get an emmy for his performance. I can't think of anyone who has owned a tv role that well. Maybe Gandolfini as Tony Soprano. Maybe.

    Definitely going to tune in next season. I don't know if it will be quite as good, but considering HBO's track record it's entirely possible. Best network on television by far. I don't think an argument can be made against that statement at this point.
     
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    I feel like a lot of people are going to be let down that something crazier or more dramatic didn't happen. The number of theories out there were stunning, and everyone was trying I piece out some major twist or crazy ending.

    Then the twist was that there was no twist. It was what the creators always said: a straight forward cop show. They even allude to it: it's the detective's curse. The answer is right there, but you can't see it. Everyone wanted to see a twist or some insane thing happen so bad that I think they'll ignore what was a tremendous season and ending and be frustrated that their twist never came, despite all the evidence telling them that no twist or crazy ending was coming.

    I don't see any scenario where McConnaghey doesn't win an Emmy. It's almost unfair how good he was. If Harrelson is up for Supporting actor he'll have that locked down, too (was he a lead or supporting?) The only question is which Emmy. Will this be considered a drama, or a mini-series? It is a series, but it is an anthology, so that could get interesting in terms of where they're nominated.
     
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    Harrelson was definitely a dual lead. You can only call him supporting in the sense that McConnaghey was just that fucking good. I get what you're saying, but just to reiterate I still thought it was an amazing season overall, and the last episode was merely good rather than great. It wasn't so much that I wanted a huge twist or anything like that, but still, it would have been interesting to see the Tuttle connection go somewhere. I don't think they had time to rap that up in one last episode though, other than just letting it peter out like they did. However, they could have done more to delve into the psychology behind the serial killers' mind sets - something that definitely got left on the table in the last episode.

    Whatever, great show. I'm glad game of thrones is coming up soon because there isn't really anything else I'm itching to watch at the moment.
     
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    Yes. If I have any complaints about this show, it's that I feel a bit gypped that we spent the whole series chasing this guy and his story and hinting at how totally fucked up and creepy and intriguing him and his cult is, and then we barely get to know him and get filled in on all the dirty details. I can get the gist, of course, but I was left wanting more. It didn't have to be a big reveal in the finale or anything - even getting more of his story throughout the show would've been good. That's always my favorite part about these kinds of shows/movies/books so it was just a bit unsatisfying. (And I know a show called True Detective is supposed to be about the detectives themselves, but I think it would've been fine to cut down on some of Marty's life that ended up being irrelevant to get to know the baddies a bit more.)

    I'm glad the Tuttles didn't get brought down. It was so frustratingly realistic. They would never let that happen to themselves. But I still would've like to hear more of the backstory of their connection.

    I don't know, maybe if I watch it over again knowing how it all pans out the full story will be more obvious. I wouldn't be surprised if I've forgotten a bunch of details that would answer all my questions.
     
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    The show was exactly the way the creators said it was going to be, a straight-forward cop drama. Reading some of the negative reviews around web lends to believe that either people didn't feel validated in their sometimes wild theories and they just read to far into it. This show isn't Breaking Bad, not every piece of symbolism is reflective of a part of the narrative, sometimes it's just symbolism; and that's a good thing.

    Overall I really enjoyed it and I'm glad it's not going beyond 1 season, it would have soured the enjoyment of it. What happens to Rust and Marty after this doesnt really matter, they've come full circle for themselves and their stories are done. I'm sure future seasons will allude to these characters or the events that's happened to tie it up in the same universe, but I'm glad this is it for these characters.
     
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    That's the problem with too many TV audience members: they want an answer for everything. They way people are reacting to the conclusion is so fucking idiotic "What about this? What about that?" Sometimes you don't GET all the answers. Actually, you never do. Not in real life, which is part of what made this drama so real is that it's full of red herrings and what ifs. The hard answers to the plot's mystery are all there if you watch and listen: the motive, the nicknames, I think the basic idea is for the viewers to try and solve it right along with Marty and Rust, perhaps make their own theories on it.
     
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    I liked the episode, the climax wasn't as high as many expected but I think the real story was Rust's final talk with Marty. I liked how his arch ended on a good note and he'd found some light of hope for humanity. I just really liked the storytelling of the series skipping back and forth in time and between characters was really well done and served to add mystery and excitement to the show. HBO will always be king taking chances producing content like this. Other channels really don't have a chance.
     
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    HBO is the king of television. That simply shouldn't be debated, but it is. I've personally had debates with people saying that networks like AMC and FX are better.

    Okay, they have some good shows, but there is still no comparison. NONE. Nobody has better acting, budget or all-around quality as HBO. And its for THINKING ADULTS who want the envelope pushed. It amazes me network TV shows even get nominated for awards anymore, The West Wing was a better show than The Sopranos? Move out of your parents basement and greet society for once.
     
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    I just finished it and this show's ending connects more with The Wire than any other show.

    The ending was perfect for what they were trying to do. If someone says they're going to do a crazy dunk, and they do that dunk, you can't say it was "Meh" because it wasn't a halfcourt shot. It wasn't Lost people. The writer even had Childress reveal himself at the end of episode 7 for the sole sake of people not thinking it was going to be Marty or Rust.

    One of the points, as said by the TD crew was the aforementioned detectives curse, and the fact shit repeats itself. These guys are cops, not superheroes. They weren't going to get through all the bullshit in place by the system and get all the way to the top. Just like in The Wire. They did all they could do, as Marty said "We got OUR guy." It just wasn't about the smoke monster.

    Now, Cary and Nic do have an opportunity to take shit to another level, by seeding smaller things into each of there separate stories that could lead to one huge thing 3-4 seasons from now. I doubt it, but it'd be cool as fuck if they did. If they don't, that's okay too.
     
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    I know there are Aaron Sorkin fan boys that claim that shit. Fucking please. Who ever HBO goes to for music selection is also top notch, Ive made playlist of songs cherry picked from different HBO series.
     
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    If other networks are learning anything from hbo I hope they're realizing they need to lay the fuck off and give writers the creative freedom they want. I listened to an interview with GRRM awhile back and hearing some of the bullshit he had to deal with from these morons was painful. They aren't artists and have no business being that involved in production. There are many reasons hbo is better than everyone else, but i think that's the main one. Also, as awesome as the acting on this show was I think it's way harder to find good writers than it is to find people who can act. The good writers will keep drifting to hbo because they know they won't have their hands tied.