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The Poetry Thread

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Beefy Phil, Apr 9, 2010.

  1. Solaris

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    Hard to do better than Tim Key
    <a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNThOQIzWSM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNThOQIzWSM</a>
    <a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEFIcZyWceI" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEFIcZyWceI</a>
    <a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5cIyFW3ng4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5cIyFW3ng4</a>

    This one about bankers is my favourite: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7EJnQ_5ex8&feature=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7EJnQ_5 ... re=related</a>


    Utterly hilarious, clever and often relevant. Very interesting readings, always make me laugh too.
     
  2. Zazz

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    Happy to see so many Bukowski fans, and not to seem redundant but I have to add another, one that's stuck with me.

    Friends Within the Darkness

    I can remember starving in a
    small room in a strange city
    shades pulled down, listening to
    classical music
    I was young I was so young it hurt like a knife
    inside
    because there was no alternative except to hide as long
    as possible--
    not in self-pity but with dismay at my limited chance:
    trying to connect.

    the old composers -- Mozart, Bach, Beethoven,
    Brahms were the only ones who spoke to me and
    they were dead.

    finally, starved and beaten, I had to go into
    the streets to be interviewed for low-paying and
    monotonous
    jobs
    by strange men behind desks
    men without eyes men without faces
    who would take away my hours
    break them
    piss on them.

    now I work for the editors the readers the
    critics

    but still hang around and drink with
    Mozart, Bach, Brahms and the
    Bee
    some buddies
    some men
    sometimes all we need to be able to continue alone
    are the dead
    rattling the walls
    that close us in.
     
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    "God’s Grandeur" by Gerard Manley Hopkins

    The world is charged with the grandeur of God.
    It will flame out, like shining from shook foil;
    It gathers to a greatness, like the ooze of oil

    Crushed. Why do men then now not reck his rod?

    Generations have trod, have trod, have trod;
    And all is seared with trade; bleared, smeared with toil;
    And wears man’s smudge and shares man’s smell: the soil

    Is bare now, nor can foot feel, being shod.

    And for all this, nature is never spent;
    There lives the dearest freshness deep down things;

    And though the last lights off the black West went
    Oh, morning, at the brown brink eastward, springs—

    Because the Holy Ghost over the bent
    World broods with warm breast and with ah! bright wings.

    At a conference I attended, James Orbinski was asked how he kept his faith in humanity after seeing what a humanitarian medical worker typically sees when working in the middle of various genocides in Africa. He responded by referencing this poem. In Ethiopia a man came to a clinic he was working in after carrying his son, on his back, for over 100 miles across a desert. Shortly after arriving, his son died. The man simply thanked Orbinski for being there to take care of his son, and presumably, went home. This, he explained, is "the dearest freshness of deep down things", the stuff that kept him from giving up on his humanitarian work. Orbinski's interpretation and explanation of the poem is far more profound than the poem itself.

    Also, from the final act of Macbeth...

     
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    Anecdote of the Jar by Wallace Stevens

    I placed a jar in Tennessee,
    And round it was, upon a hill.
    It made the slovenly wilderness
    Surround that hill.

    The wilderness rose up to it,
    And sprawled around, no longer wild.
    The jar was round upon the ground
    And tall and of a port in air.

    It took dominion every where.
    The jar was gray and bare.
    It did not give of bird or bush,
    Like nothing else in Tennessee.

    This was the first poem that ever made me think, "Wow, poetry is actually kind of neat."

    And another by Wallace Stevens.

    Disillusionment of Ten O'Clock

    The houses are haunted
    By white night-gowns.
    None are green,
    Or purple with green rings,
    Or green with yellow rings,
    Or yellow with blue rings.
    None of them are strange,
    With socks of lace
    And beaded ceintures.
    People are not going
    To dream of baboons and periwinkles.
    Only, here and there, an old sailor,
    Drunk and asleep in his boots,
    Catches tigers
    In red weather.
     
  5. Sicnevol

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    Stephen Crane " A man said to the Universe"
    A man said to the universe:
    "Sir I exist!"
    "However," replied the universe,
    "The fact has not created in me
    A sense of obligation."



    James Fenton
    God, A Poem

    A nasty surprise in a sandwich,
    A drawing-pin caught in your sock,
    The limpest of shakes from a hand which
    You'd thought would be firm as a rock,

    A serious mistake in a nightie,
    A grave disappointment all round
    Is all that you'll get from th'Almighty,
    Is all that you'll get underground.

    Oh he said: 'If you lay off the crumpet
    I'll see you alright in the end.
    Just hang on until the last trumpet.
    Have faith in me, chum-I'm your friend.'

    But if you remind him, he'll tell you:
    'I'm sorry, I must have been pissed-
    Though your name rings a sort of a bell. You
    Should have guessed that I do not exist.

    'I didn't exist at Creation,
    I didn't exist at the Flood,
    And I won't be around for Salvation
    To sort out the sheep from the cud-

    'Or whatever the phrase is. The fact is
    In soteriological terms
    I'm a crude existential malpractice
    And you are a diet of worms.

    'You're a nasty surprise in a sandwich.
    You're a drawing-pin caught in my sock.
    You're the limpest of shakes from a hand which
    I'd have thought would be firm as a rock,

    'You're a serious mistake in a nightie,
    You're a grave disappointment all round-
    That's all you are, ' says th'Almighty,
    'And that's all that you'll be underground.'



    I had to write a paper on these two for my English class. I really like them.
     
  6. Spoz

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    The english translation of this Jacques Prévert poem is very good, but it's better when you understand that the 'Barrel organ' in french is "L'orgue Du Barbarie" which can also translate to "Organ of cruelty". Here's a video of one if you don't know what a barrel organ is:


    And here's the poem:

    Me, I play the piano
    said one
    me, I play the violin
    said another
    me the harp, me the banjo
    me the cello
    me the bagpipes, me the flute
    and me, a rattle.
    And they talked talked
    talked about what they played.
    No music was heard
    everyone talked
    talked talked
    and no one played
    but in a corner one man remained silent:
    "And you, Sir, who remain silent and say nothing,
    what instrument do you play?"
    the musicians asked him.
    "Me, I play the barrel organ
    and I also play the knife,"
    said the man who until now
    had said absolutely nothing
    and then he advanced knife in hand
    and killed all the musicians
    and played the barrel organ
    and his music was so true
    and so lively and so pretty
    that the daughter of the house’s owner
    came out from under the piano
    where she lay bored to sleep
    and said:
    "Me, I played hoop
    ball, chase
    I played hopscotch
    I played with a pail
    I played with a shovel
    I played house
    I played tag
    I played with my dolls
    I played with a parasol
    I played with my little brother
    with my little sister
    I played cops
    and robbers
    but that’s over over over
    I want to play assassin
    I want to play the barrel organ."
    And the man took the little girl by the hand
    and they went into towns
    into houses, into gardens
    and killed as many people as possible
    after which they married
    and had many children.
    But
    the oldest learned piano
    the second, violin
    the third, harp
    the fourth, the rattle
    the fifth, cello
    and they all took to talking talking
    talking talking talking
    so that no more music was heard
    and all was set to begin again!
     
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    I adore this poem. It is by Rudyard Kipling. I first came across it while I was in the fifth grade, and I have been hooked ever since. It really doesn't need an interpretation, because it pretty much explains itself.

    If you can keep your head when all about you
    Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
    If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
    But make allowance for their doubting too;
    If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
    Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,
    Or, being hated, don't give way to hating,
    And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;

    If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
    If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
    If you can meet with triumph and disaster
    And treat those two imposters just the same;
    If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
    Or watch the things you gave your life to broken,
    And stoop and build 'em up with wornout tools;

    If you can make one heap of all your winnings
    And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
    And lose, and start again at your beginnings
    And never breath a word about your loss;
    If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
    To serve your turn long after they are gone,
    And so hold on when there is nothing in you
    Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on";

    If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
    Or walk with kings - nor lose the common touch;
    If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
    If all men count with you, but none too much;
    If you can fill the unforgiving minute
    With sixty seconds' worth of distance run -
    Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
    And - which is more - you'll be a Man my son!
     
  9. Sam N

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    Robert Sullivan is a Maori New Zealander, and the instructor? of my writing workshop. I've read a lot of his stuff and while I don't think he is by any means great or anything, some of his shit is most definitely original and interesting.

    Here is "Ahi Ka—The House of Nga Puhi"

    notes: Nga Puhi is his tribe on New Zealand. "Ahi Ka" means person’s right to land, so long as they maintain their presence, or home fire. The "ha" at the end is, as I understand it, like the breath of life or something like that.

    We light the poem and breathe out
    the growing flames. Ahi ka. This
    is our home—our fire. Hot tongues out

    —pukana—turn words to steam. This
    fish heart is a great lake on a
    skillet. Ahi ka! Ahi ka! [...]

    carried by the tribe’s forever-story
    firing every lullaby.
    Shadows shrink in our hands’ quiver

    as we speak—ahi ka sing fire
    scoop embers in the childhood sun
    stare into molten shapes and see

    people—building, sailing, farming—
    see them in the flames of our land
    see them in this forever light

    no tears only fire for ahi
    ka no weeping only hangi pits
    no regrets just forgiveness and

    a place for the fire—it’s our song
    to sing—ahi ka—got to keep
    singing the shadows away—ha!