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Discussion in 'Pop Culture Board' started by hawt, Oct 19, 2009.

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    I've finally got around to playing to Dark Souls 3. I haven't played either of the previous two games. I've gone back and forth on whether or not I really like this game, and I think I do, but I'm not sure I quite buy into the hype. First of all, every time I see this game mentioned people are talking about how it's one of the hardest games out there. Is it really though? I mean, this game would be hard if it wasn't for 3 major things that kind of negate that.

    1. The amount of opportunities you have to abuse the ever loving shit out of the bow is ridiculous. Seriously, every time I encounter a 'tough' enemy there is some spot where you can just shoot them and they can't hit you. They don't even try to do something about this. They just stand there flailing around helplessly waiting to die. I've fought something like 5 dragons, and these were supposed to be tough fights, but those fuckers don't even move while you just sit on your ass and shoot them.
    2. A few of the bosses in this game would be pretty hard. At least I think they would be, except the game lets you summon an NPC ally for every boss fight. Some of the NPCs I've summoned are so good they can kill the boss on their own. At a boss' best you can just beat the shit out of it while it has its back turned to you. Sometimes you can summon 2 or 3 NPCs for a boss fight, and at that point it's just silly. I've fought a few of the bosses solo, and they weren't that hard once you have their attack patterns down. At least those are actual fights though. With the NPCs every boss is a breeze. They should have limited it to one NPC (or zero) per boss fight and at least made it so they can't heal themselves.
    3. The AI in this game is really dumb. For example, during the road of sacrifices area you come upon 15 or so enemies all huddled together. This might have been a tough encounter, except they just fucking stand there while you walk around and head shot all of them. I don't expect AI to be able to react like a human player, but the 3 dudes next to you just got shot in the face and... nothing? Come on. I think developers can do a little better than that. In addition there are a lot of locations where an enemy will just refuse to come through a doorway or something like that for no reason. So you can just stand at the edge of the doorway and either shoot them, or swing at them after they swing.

    As far as dying goes, most of the time this game kills you it isn't because it's punishing you for mistake. To me, that's what difficulty is supposed to be about. Instead, it's just the game fucking you over in some really stupid way. One of the buttons suddenly won't work (and no, I'm not talking about an enemy staggering you). Your character won't roll, or won't sprint, or won't switch from the bow to his sword, or you'll hit attack and he'll take 2 seconds to acknowledge it. That's not difficulty. That's just random fuckery. There have been so many times too where an enemy can suddenly just hit me through 3 feet of stone for no discernible reason. I mean melee enemies, not some spell casting that would maybe make a little sense.

    As far as other aspects of the game, I really wish developers would stop doing this shit where your character is inexplicably blocked by a 2 inch high barrier. For fuck's sake, just put a goddamn fence there. That stuff really takes me out of the game, and this game does that nonstop. When it comes to stories in games I'm one of those players who really appreciates some effort being put into the narrative. It doesn't have to be anything super impressive, but I like it to be there. Of course, a game can be great without any story at all, but it's still nice to have. Dark Souls 3 barely has anything in this regard. I usually find myself chatting with characters between missions, but not so in this game. The dialogue very rarely changes anyway, and what little story the game does have seems like pure nonsense. It reminds me of Destiny in the sense that it's like someone came up with a concept they thought was really cool, and then immediately hit a brick wall, so instead of an ongoing narrative you end up with more and more vague bullshit to try to cover up the fact that there wasn't really any plan as to how everything is supposed to work.

    That said, the world setting is well done and the combat can be pretty fun at times. I think what I liked best about this game is the way it does the leveling. It's very incremental, and you can't really run into a situation where you do a few side missions, or farm an area for awhile, and then when you go back to the main story you suddenly find that all the enemies are now way too weak for your character. Leveling might help a little, but it's not a game changer, and I hope more games copy that model. I also liked that the equipment lay out was fairly simple and isn't cluttered with endless customization. I can really enjoy that in a game like Monster Hunter World, but you can get really sick of constantly having to update your character.

    Overall, I'd give Dark Souls 3 a 7/10. I don't regret buying it, but I'm not in love with it and I'm not rushing out to get the previous 2 games.
     
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    Anybody else playing Apex Legends? I'm sure most people have heard of it, but it's a free battle royale that came out a couple weeks ago, from the same company who did titanfall.

    There are still some occasional lag and disconnect issues, but it is really well put together for a game that just came out.

    The balancing is surprisingly good. All the unqiue character abilities are helpful, but won't come anywhere near winning battles outright by themselves, which is good. The weapon selection is great. Every place that has 'best gun rankings' puts the order differently. The only semi-useless guns are one shitty pistol and a sniper. Sniping doesn't really work in this game, with the exception of a legendary you usually only see when 3-4 teams are left. The only balancing issue I don't get is Bangalore's ultimate, as it is basically the same as Gibraltor's except way shittier. Even so, the other abilities more or less balance it out.

    I really hope they don't ruin it like fortnite. People are already demanding new weapons and characters. I mean for fuck's sake, it's been out like two weeks. They did a really good job with the character and weapon mix they launched with so rushing new crap out would be a really bad idea. Unfortunately, that's what the new generation of gamers insists on to keep playing something. I mean, I want additions to the game(especially more maps). I just don't want an unending plethora of crap pulped out just because.

    Anyway, it's a lot of fun for now. Definitely check it out if you like shooters and battle royales. Besides, it's free so if you end up not liking it you don't have to invest anything anyway.
     
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    I’ve heard nothing but great things about it and am being presured to play it soon. Just haven’t made the time yet.
     
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    Yep, Its a lot of fun. The disconnect issues are really annoying, though. Ill be in game and then it just suddenly crashes back to the desktop. Its happened pretty frequently. The map is cool but not too big that it becomes a chore to traverse. The weapons are ok, but are clearly ripped from other games. I do like that I dont have to spend extra time mixing and matching attachments and gear scavenging like in PUBG. The Battle Royale field is starting to get crowded, and who knows how they will handle the insane growth this game has. But so far, for a free game, its a ton of fun.
     
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    For something that was just released it is pretty dam good. Thou i was crashing like a mother fucker last night. The pistols are useless except the wingman. You can't snipe that well in this game, except the yellow one. The light sniper rifle the G7 is not bad because it has a really fast rate of fire. I dont really like most of the light weapons, to little damage with to small of a clip even with the add on. I am having good luck with the heavies on single fire.
     
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    If any guns do get nerfed I'm guessing it will be the wingman and/or the spitfire. The spitfire hits harder than all the assault rifles and has hardly any recoil. The wingman snipes better than the longbow, which is just kind of funny. It works well in every situation/range and saves a lot of backpack space since you don't need to carry much ammo for it.
    Yeah, outside of the scout I don't use light weapons a whole lot either. People love the 301, but it's damage output feels too low to me.
    Everyone else says it's the best gun or one of the best, but I hate the peacekeeper. I can't hit shit with that thing. Probably me being crazy, but I swear I've had people right in the middle of the sights from ten feet away and it just whiffs.
     
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    I have to say that I'm pretty impressed with how quickly and well they've scaled up. They went to what... 25 million users by end of the first week?

    Technically, that is phenomenal, even if there are some disconnect issues going on.

    When you stop and see just how many "big" games outright died upon launch with nowhere near that level of users, it kind of speaks to the complexity involved.

    It's not been perfect for them, but hats off nonetheless.
     
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    Yeah, I've been really impressed with the launch as well. The disconnects happen, but they are fairly infrequent. Usually new shooters are full of bugs and have a couple weapons that are broken as hell. It's hard to balance things out before a meta takes form. This is maybe the best I've seen, at least for a shooter this new. Sure, the game didn't release with zero issues, but it's about as minimal as one could ask for, especially considering the insane traffic this game got right out of the gate.

    The really impressive part is they did all of this with no beta launch whatsoever.
     
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    I always try the peacekeeper but same i cant hit anything with it, but die to it. My friend that i play with has always had disconnect issue. But the other night both of us were dropping all the time, we quit early because it was pissing us off. One thing that would make it better, if you could rejoin a match in progress.
     
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    Speaks volumes about their investment in stress and load testing. It’s hard, expensive, and time consuming, but the benefits are huge. As we’ve seen.

    You'd be amazed at how many of my customers treat s&l testing as optional and then have it bite them in the ass later.
     
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    It seems like it is really good... when it works. The 'when' is my problem with it. I used it a lot for awhile because everyone else said it was so good, but I finally gave up on it and switched to the auto shotty/wingman/prowler for close range. With the peacekeeper I'll own the crap out of everyone in one encounter and just blank on the next one. At least with the auto shotty I know why I missed. Besides, the mastiff seems to be easier to get now instead of just being an endgame weapon.
     
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    And one thing that sucks and not the game, if the fucking origin launcher. I have never seen a bigger pile of shit. Try adding a friend you just played with.
     
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    Example #10000 of how EA hates its customers. But seriously, the Origin launcher blows. Hilariously unintuitive and a pain to deal with.

    For anyone that plays PUBG, the mobile version just released Survive Until Dawn mode for a bit. It’s basically PUBG + Left4Dead. Pretty fun.
     
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    And the last two nights we haven't made it more then 30 minutes before we quit. Crashing constantly now.
     
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    We were having similar issues when we partied up, and it looks like the game sends players to random servers and then doesn't adjust when they join up in a party. At the start screen don't hit X. Wait about 2 minutes and then hit the options button. Close the menu that comes up, and then you can hit R3 for the data centers list. Make sure you are all selecting the same data center, whatever is close-ish that has a relatively low ping. Then continue into the game and party up. I don't know if that's what's causing the problems you guys are having, but it worked for us. You can't get to the data centers once you go into the match screen, and the menu won't pull up once you close the first menu from the title screen unless you wait a little bit so it's really weird how you have to get to it.
     
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    Halo MC coming to PC... Steam even. I have to say, I'm looking forward to it.

    Anyone else?

    Halo was the first video game that I ever remember wanting long before it came out. I remember watching gameplay at Apple conventions when it was being built for a Mac platform... only to hear that MS bought it to launch this thing they were calling XBox.

    So of course, that's why I bought an XBox.

    Probably my most nostalgic video game series ever.
     
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    No mention of Google's "Stadia" announcement here?

    I played their Project Stream beta and was pretty blown away by how well it played. My chief complaint was just that, if the stream detected "unplayably" poor quality on your internet connection, it just threw you out. That resulted in some situations where I couldn't save progress, and they'll only suspend a game for 20 minutes so if you don't get back on a good internet connection in that time, you've lost whatever progress.

    But overall, neat stuff. I could play Assassin's Creed at 1080p and high quality graphics, on any computer I wanted, anywhere, with no installation of software. That's really convenient for someone who's busy a lot - if I got a half hour of downtime, I could just throw the game up on whatever computer I was sitting in front of (including at work on a Mac), play for a bit, and exit out to pick it back up later. Input lag wasn't a problem.

    My biggest problem with games is time commitment. It was way easier to actually play an entire game if the whole process of getting into and out of a game is nearly instant from any Chrome browser on any device.
     
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    It was big news in our company yesterday, but I just haven't had time to dig into it and see what's up.

    I'm very interested to see how it works and give it a try.
     
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    It was a funny experience to play Assassin's Creed @ 1080p/30fps on a several-year-old dual core Surface Pro 4 with an integrated GPU.

    It may not be right for everyone, but it sure as hell makes gaming accessible to anyone with a decent internet connection, without any up-front investment.
     
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    After looking everywhere I can't seem to get access... stadia.com pushes you to the google store and shows you a video promo, but nowhere do I see anything about signing up, etc.

    Weird.