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Send In The Clones

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Rush-O-Matic, Jan 24, 2018.

  1. Rush-O-Matic

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    Scientists successfully clone monkeys
    https://apnews.com/38beefc3b75745a4...essfully-clone-monkeys;-could-humans-be-next?

    There are many, many ethical discussions to be had about the prospects of cloning. I don't know if we've done a cloning thread before. (I guess, if we have, we'll have the exact same arguments, again. Ha!) But, two things in this article struck me:
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    Focus: Greely's statement. That sounds horrible. Grieving the loss of a child, and try to replace it with a copy? Would anybody actually consider that? And, then when they're 18, you tell them, "hey, guess why we always called you Xerox."

    Alt. Focus: PETA. I tend to agree with their comments that it's horror show, but if the science is to continue to possibly develop cures for Alzheimer's, are the growing pains worth it?

    Alt. Alt. Focus: You can clone yourself, and you have total control over the clone (and it's "banked" in some way). Do you do it? What do you use it for? You make it to 65 without needing the clone you started growing when you were 40 - do you destroy it? Release it to the wild?
     
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    Focus: It looks like you and has the memories of you, but it brings of philosophical questions around the nature of consciousness. A carbon copy is still just that, but is the mind behind it the same? Probably not. The Schwarzenegger movie The 6th Day was decent and touched on the subject a bit.

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    This honestly would make a killer Black Mirror episode.
     
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    This is the problem they think we would run into with teleportation technology as well, it's not sending "you" to another place but destroying you and creating an exact copy in a new place.

    So the same question applies: does your consciousness get recreated if your body gets recreated? I wouldn't think so, I doubt if you clone yourself you're suddenly seeing through 2 sets of eyes.
     
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    Isn't that what happened in Star Trek TNG? Beam technology vaporizes you and then clones you at your destination and one time the beamed version of Riker didnt disappear and there were two of him or something.
     
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    Maybe it’s like The Prestige, where you have to kill the clone before he ruins your cheesy magician act.

    I don’t think we have a handle on consciousness at all. It could be one of those things (like the pinpoint creation of life) that we may never have a real handle on. We just know it’s something that exists and it is to each their own.

    Replicants. They’re coming.
     
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    I don't see what the big deal is... I've cloned 3 repos already this morning. <--- programmer joke
     
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    HAHAHAHA . . . I don't get it.

    All I can think about for cloning yourself is the movie Multiplicity with Michael Keaton - each copy degrades a little bit.


    If the technology was there, and I was a billionaire at 30, I'd just grow me a clone and then put it in some medically-induced coma. Then, if I ever needed a new heart or lung or kidney or blood transfusion, I'd have a 30-year younger set of replacement parts. But, the nurse I hired to care for SecondMe would probably fall in love with him, keep their love secret, and then plot a daring wake-me-up escape to Switzerland, so I'd have to hire a hit squad, but with specific instructions not to damage the clone, but he'd have a stand off with a needle held at his neck while the assassins are pointing their laser sights at Tiffany, the nurse. Or something.
     
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    I think that was just a transporter accident that a copy was created in the first place. I don’t think Star Trek uses the copy creating/destroying type of transporting. I think that’s just the only way we’ve conceptulized it so far in reality.
     
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    But that was also the reason that McKoy gave for why he hated using transporters.

    https://archiveofourown.org/works/591578
     
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    I don't think President Skroob in Spaceballs liked it much either.
     
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    treat it like a twin, move on with your life
     
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    So, he would finish all of my
     
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    Boob pic postings.
     
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    Dude, nobody wants to see my boobs. Or, my clone's boobs.
     
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    Maybe that's why you want a clone... so you can play with his boobs, without them really being your boobs... but they kind of are.

    Kind of like a Liberace thing... but taken to the next level.
     
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