I was reading the girls are assholes thread and noticed that a lot of girls are saying they have more guy friends than girl friends. That got me thinking about guys, and if guys are really just friends with girls or if they're just waiting for an opportunity to fuck them. Then that reminded me of a story. I was having drinks with some coworkers and one of them said that she was going to see a movie that weekend with her guy friend. That started the whole 'is he really your friend' debate. I explained that I have a few chicks that I would call friends, but I don't go to movies with them or go out to dinner with them or hang out with them like I do with my guy friends, unless they're out with the guys. If I were to do that, it would only be because I wanted to sleep with her. She claimed that he wasn't like that, they were just friends, blah blah. Her reasoning was that they've been hanging out for a while and he's never shown any interest or sent out any signals. I said that he was probably scared of chasing her away or getting rejected or something and was likely just waiting for her to get drunk and want to hook up. She didn't believe that. So I told her that the next time just the two of them were out for drinks (this happened fairly often I guess), she should put the moves on him and see what happens. She did, and he was totally willing to go there. She couldn't believe that someone would hang out with her for a year or two in the slim hope that she would eventually want to sleep with him. FOCUS: Can guys and girls just be friends? Girls, have you ever had a guy friend that was truly a friend and not willing to have sex if it was offered? Ever offered it up to a guy friend only to be turned down? Guys, do you have chick friends that you don't want to sleep with, or wouldn't if it was offered? Maybe clarifying the friendship is important. Like I said, there might be a girl in a group of friends that guys don't really think of sexually(relatively speaking), but when a guy and a girl just hang out together and go to movies, shopping, dinner, etc. I find it hard to believe that he's not waiting for his chance. Apologies if this has been done before. I'm too lazy to search but it sounds vaguely familiar.