My recently-widowed father-in-law has been hospitalized with a lung infection so I’m dog and house sitting for him while he’s admitted. This is a pack-a-day, smokes-indoors , never-opened-a-window-in-their-life boomer’s house. Were this ten years ago, it probably would not have bothered me because I would have just quit smoking at that time and no doubt would notice this musty rotted death smell. When you first quit smoking, you’d (in your mind) step over your own child when you smell a cigarette to steal it from that smoker. After ten years of being cigarette-free, I smell that shit and it’s just “Jesus Christ, it was THAT BAD?!?!?!” This house smells like they were curing rotted ham in it. I threw away nearly twenty years of money and health on that trash. Never again. Focus: Were/are you a smoker or lived with people who were? Did you manage to quit or are still active? Or, general discussion around nicotine and cigarette smoking.
My parents bought their house from smokers. I could smell smoke for at least 10 years after we moved in when I was a kid. This was after the walls were replaced and carpets torn up. Took forever to get rid of it.
My grandfather died of emphysema when I was a kid, despite quitting years before I was born, and that made it absolutely certain I would never smoke. Of my parents and their siblings, two smoked and the rest didn't. I'll give you two guesses which two are no longer with us.
When we bought our house we had to wash the walls and soak the blinds in the tub to remove the layer of smoke and nicotine. When we would take a shower the condensation on the bathroom walls would run yellow. It was incredible. Back in high school, a girl I was friends with smoked, and sitting next to her on the bus was awful because she reeked of stale cigarette smoke. I’ve never really smoked, less than half a pack in my entire life. It was during an intense bar phase and I’m still not sure what I was thinking. It only took a day or two for me to realize how ridiculous I was being and I’ve never smoked cigarettes since. My dad quit cold turkey in the 70s specifically because he didn’t want me to see him and form that habit. In the past year or so I’ve started smoking cigars again. I would smoke them very occasionally back in the 90s but stopped for about 15 years. Now I smoke a cigar maybe once a week- on garage night of course.
The aircraft I flew on has been around for decades. Up until the late 80's or early 90's crews could smoke during missions. Position consoles had ashtrays built in. Old timers used to say that on long duration sorties, you couldn't see from the front to the back of the crew compartment due to the cigarette smoke. When these aircraft go in for system upgrades, they tear everything out down to the frame and clean everything. Similar to what you see a car shop do for a full restoration. The guys who do the upgrade work have said that they still find nicotine tar coating the inside skin & structural framing of the crew compartment. Video about the RJ:
I remember as a kid flying in a stretch 8 (a REALLY long DC-8 where you can look down the aisle from the back rows and watch it snake sideways while in flight). They had a smoking and non-smoking section. Separated by a fucking curtain. It was gross... incredibly gross... it was really all smoking section. Go figure.
I started smoking at 15 (gross, I know) during a very nihilist phase when lots of people around me were dying regardless of their lifestyle choices. A very fuck it, teenage, “I’m gonna die anyways so might as well do it with a lucky strike in one hand and a 40 in the other” vibe. By the time I was 20 I was down to a pack a week, and by 22 maybe a pack a month. But I kept smoking socially/while drinking until Covid. I didn’t want to wake up wondering if I was getting sick or if I just had a few too many drinks and cigarettes the night before. Getting pregnant helped solidify it for me - if I hadn’t had kids I might have gone back to it, who knows. But I haven’t had a cigarette or been appreciably drunk since 2020. Weird.
I was a stoner for a while but never really took to cigarettes. It's just as well; in my family, 100% of the smokers died of smoking-related diseases before 75, and basically everyone else lives into their 90s or longer. My coworker was a heavy smoker, then quit. He went from smelling like an ashtray to suddenly smelling normal, as you'd expect. He also got a new truck, which hadn't been smoked in. Then he went through a stressful time at work and picked up smoking again. He and his truck immediately smelled terrible. During this time he hid his cigarettes, used breath freshener, hung air fresheners in his truck, and made it clear to everyone that his wife didn't know and to keep it a secret. I told him his wife knew and she was just leaving him alone about it. He insisted that smoking a dozen cigarettes a day and smelling like Joe Camel's ball sweat was going unnoticed. A couple years later, after he quit again, I asked his wife if he had ever relapsed. Of course she knew. How could you not?
Thankfully, smoking is one vice I didn't pick up even though I tried it a handful of times as a teen and a few drunken smokefests along the way. I dated a girl who was a smoker and even though she wasn't one of those smokers who reek of cigarettes, I never got use to it. Between what I could smell and the "I need to go have a smoke", it wasn't for me.
I smoked habitually for 28 years up until about 8 days ago, closer to 32 year since my first one. I didn't stand a chance as a kid, had my first cigarette at about 12 years old. I had so many family members and friends that worked at RJR. As kids we all worked in the tobacco fields. Our local stores didn't care about age limits, if you could see over the counter, you could buy cigarettes. We still had a smoking area for students when I first started highschool. Mostly everyone close to me has quit by now. I haven't smoked in a residence in about 20 years, alway step outside. I may have stunk, but our house never did. I'm on the patch and lozenges. I just got some nicotine toothpicks, but they are a little strong for my needs while wearing the patch.
I absolutely love nicotine. I started smoking when I was 16. I think I basically used it to self medicate for adhd. When I couldn’t smoke I’d throw snuff in my lip. I used to be able to swallow the juice. I could eat with it there. I looooovvvveeedddd it. I am happy to report that I have been nicotine free for 8 years. Kids will do interesting things to you. I think I hit rock bottom twice during the addiction. The first time I was drinking with a friend. We ran out of smokes and had no way to get more. Much like a bum I found a half smoked cigarette on a side walk. Myself and my friend got in a fist fight over who would smoke it. The second time I was at a Sam’s club and needed to buy diapers and formula for my child. But also wanted to buy my nicotine. I didn’t have enough money to buy all three things. I was trying to g to figure out how I could buy less of something and still get my smokes. I realized how dumb my moral dilemma was. Right then and there I knew it was time to quit. Cold turkey made me angry. I almost lost my job. My wife threatened to leave me. I just gave in and went to get some cigarettes. The next week I went to a doctor and asked for help. He advised me to try both nicotine gum and patches at the same time then taper off on a schedule. After two months I was completely off it. I will never ever touch that shit again. No matter how fancy the cigar. No matter how drunk I am. No matter how down I am. The solution will never be cigarettes. I want to see my kids grow old. I want to keep up with them. And nicotine will never be worth giving that up.
I lived in a house full of smokers, which naturally led to me picking up the habit very young (first started at 15), luckily once I had moved out of my parents and wasn't living in the constant anosmia blindness of how truly bad it was, I was able to give it up. Haven't touched a cigarette in almost 20 years and never will again. After both of my parents passed away and my siblings and I had to sell the aforementioned house, it was a real 'slap some lipstick on a pig' situation. We knew we weren't going to ever be able to fully reverse 40+ years of damage without completely tearing the house down to the studs and basically starting over. That's the next person's problem. However, I did manage to snap one picture of when we were painting over the ceiling that really just shows off the damage they did. And this wasn't even the worst room in the house.
An old friend of mine bought his parents' house that they lived in and chain smoked in for his entire life... 40+ years. After he bought it and moved in, he moved back out and it was bad enough that they had to replace drywall... repainting wasn't enough. He showed me a pic of when they pulled a painting off the wall that hadn't been moved since it was hung 40 years ago... and it was terrifying.
That's exactly how my parents house was. Pulling pictures/decorations off the walls and Helen Keller could see the outline of the item because of the shear amount of staining on the wall. Since none of my siblings and I were planning on moving in, we just slapped a coat of neutral paint all over the entire house and let the new buyers deal with it.
My grandmother's kitchen ceiling was as bad, if not worse than that. After she quit smoking, my dumb ass offered to wash it for her. I would have been better off painting it. The house was very small and the kitchen with a low ceiling. Yet every weekend almost the entire family would be there to play cards or whatever. Almost all of them smoked and the cloud hanging from the ceiling was so thick... it drifted into the livingroom and every weekend I'd be in there, eyes burning as I watched TV or whatever. My dad smoked, mom didn't, which is probably the only thing that saved me from ever picking up the habit. Well, that and my grandfather died of cancer at 47. I can't stand the smell of it still and was very happy when NY made it against the law to smoke in bars and restaurants.
My mom was a 2-pack-a-day smoker. She started when she was in college, in the early '60s. She even smoked when she was pregnant with me. She would drive around with the air conditioner on "high," with the windows cracked about one inch, because "the smoke is gonna blow everywhere if I roll them all the way down." I ALWAYS smelled like cigarettes (More Menthol 120s) when I was growing up. Kids would make fun of me about it (they always assumed it was my dad who smoked, for some reason. He dipped snuff, starting when he was eight. Hey it was the '40s. He ended up quitting it in the '80s, when he found out it could cause cancer.). She died of lung cancer in 1996, and she kept smoking until the last couple of weeks or so, when she was too weak to hold her head up anymore. I hated her smoking, but decided to give it a try when I was 16. Marlboro Reds, just like my brother smoked. I kept it up for twenty years, smoking about half a pack a day. I had to stop when I was in prison, but immediately bought a new pack once I got released. I quit about a year after I got with Jungle Julia, but not for the reason you'd think: I don't know if I changed, or if the cigarettes did, but they don't hit the same anymore. The buzz just wasn't as good as I remembered it when I got out of prison, and I gradually smoked less and less, until one day I realized I hadn't had a cigarette in about a month. So I just kept it up. I still kept a pack in my tool box at work in case I ever wanted one, but I never did; I ended up throwing the pack out when I left that shop.
I would never clean a smoker’s house without full gear. To a non-smoker is just straight-up dangerous, and you can get nicotine poisoning from it. When my father-in-law passes away in the next year, we’ll hire the pros to scrub the place.
Luckily never picked up the habit. I can count on one hand the number of cigarettes I have smoked. Usually out drinking I’d get drunk enough to ask for one. It wouldn’t give me a buzz or any reaction really and I’d wake up the next morning with a terrible sore throat. My mom was an anti smoking Nazi and would grill us if we had the smell on us after coming home. My little brother started smoking just to spite her. Showed her! My dad and grandpa were the only two other people in my family that smoked regularly but had both quit by the time I was 5. So I wasn’t around it at all growing up. They started banning indoor smoking around here in 07. Didn’t impact me and I didn’t notice it until I moved to China where they smoke worse than chimneys. First night out at a club my clothes smelled like an ash tray. Fucking disgusting habit. My little brother collects all his butts in his used Captain Morgan's bottles (another uncontrolled addiction of his) and leaves them on the porch. Cute artsy chick at my first job drove around in a beater grand marquis and like 200 butts in an extended ashtray she made into her center console. Barf. My real addiction is caffeine. I finally got it down to half a cup of decaf in the morning and a Coke or Mountain Dew at work. My average is much lower than it has ever been but I still fuck around and get C4s on the weekend when I really want to get stuff done.