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Game of Thrones

Discussion in 'TV Shows' started by Aetius, Sep 18, 2010.

  1. iczorro

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    Looked like ash in the throne room, definitely snow outside Khal Drogo's hut. The warlocks seemed to be showing her things she really wanted. If I remember correctly from the books, if she had proceded wrong through her tour of the House of the Undying, she would have been stuck there. They seem to have skipped over the major point of her visit there, which was some very cryptic prophesies about her future.

    I see two possibilities from how they played it in the show. One is that the Ironborn set fire to the place as they were leaving (and remember, Robb said that any Ironborn who wanted to leave would be allowed, except Theon). The second is that Roose Bolton's Bastard torched it, because he's not a very nice guy. All those scenes this season with Tywin Lannister and Arya? They were supposed to have been with Roose Bolton and Arya. Bolton was supposed to be the one running Harrenhall at that point, and even more cruelly than Lannister. The Bolton's sigil is a flayed man. That's not meant to show their kindness and normality.
     
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    That shit just isn't fire, that shit is Dragonfire. See what they did to Harrenhal? Regular fire doesn't burn rock like that. Dragonfire does.

    I like how they mentioned how the Dragons amplifies the magic in the area. It amplified the creation of wildfire which in the book was more than green fire that burned shit. It create a towering pillar of flame that basically acted like a kraken, but on fire.

    If they don't introduce the Brave Companions or at least Vargo Hoat, the show is going to become a hate watch for me.
     
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    Plus the one that was stabbed was like a clone. Pyat Pree actually showed himself this time.
     
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    Well then it's good she's got fucking dragons and can just torch the place if her plans don't work out... And the Zombies who only die when they get burned. I feel like the whole zombie storyline is too much. How could they ever be a compelling sub plot other than "unstoppable force of death working its way south to destroy the known world." That shit is fun to watch when its The Walking Dead and its "our" world, but who cares about Zombie knights and horses. bah.
     
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    Well it is at least the biggest of the actual magic/mythic story lines outside of Dany's dragons. Honestly, there are so many gods and so many smaller sub groups of fantastical magic/sorcery practitioners it kind of gets annoying hearing most of the characters claim it's all hogwash and parlor tricks. The white walkers are explained better in the first book than in the series but it basically is summed up to be fairy tales Bran's septon tells him. Maybe Martin didn't want to make it as campy as other fantasy fiction but it's still all there....
     
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    Exactly. Let's not forget, the ENTIRE series opens with the Crows meeting up with a white walker while on patrol. Some other thoughts for those who haven't read the books:

    The first book (and thus the first season) is a lot more linear. Starting with book two, all hell breaks loose, and the linear storyline breaks into the multitude of storylines that you see in the second season. The books actually have more, but obviously due to time constraints, they aren't all in the tv series.

    The 'white walkers/others/wildlings/Night's Watch' storyline is much more prominent in the books. In fact, in books one and two, it is the giant shoe hovering above everyone's head, whether they know it or not. The tv series doesn't focus on this very much, and opted to follow the King's Landing stuff which is more immediate. I suspect in the future, they will have to 'repair' the Crows storyline and beef it up because it figures more into the other events in future books. The white walkers storyline is not some bullshit storyline tossed in for the magic stuff, nor is the Dany storyline. They are both important to events that unfold later, and in the books are the constant shadows of malignity that hang on the edge of the main story, threatening to come in and nullify everything.
     
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    In my opinion, teh White walkers are in fact the MAIN storyline. They're the reason for the series itself. The rest of this political intrigue and such is merely shuffling the pieces to get to the state of the Seven Kingdoms at which point the White Walkers attack. This is why I'm confident that at some point Dany and her dragons will be in charge of the Iron Throne. The name of the book series is not "A Game of Thrones" (that's the first book). It's "A Song of Ice and Fire".
     
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    Of course! It totally makes sense. She has dragons with magical dragon fire and the white walkers (ice) are susceptible to fire. Or at lest, their wights were. I assume that they are, too. For me, as someone who did not read the books, it seems very obvious that these two will be the main groups clashing, and that the white walkers are about to start invading the wall in a bad way. All the squabbles and wars are going to seem like child's play when these crazy undead magical beings decide to play ball. At leas the regular folks will have her magic to combat it. It seems like, since magic is being reborn in the world, she will have a lot of people coming to her to soak it up so to speak. That will probably aid her to the throne and seat of power.
     
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    I mean I have no clue what happens but it seems like Robb is megafucked. His two kid brothers are headed to the wall, where nearly unstoppable undead forces are headed for a major assault. He's surrounded from behind by people he was on the cusp of defeating and his path to Winterfell is blocked by Iron Island invaders and one major route is in the hands of a person he just said "fuck it" to.
     
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    Just as a big shiny exclamation point for those who seem to get distracted by the big shiny CGI. The Nights Watch has two problems. Anyone else remember the fact that the Wildings all used to live in small villages spread out, but now they are all gathered together behind the King Beyond The Wall? Westeros's only problem just isn't the Wight Walkers and The Others, they got Wildings too. AND remember when the Crows came up on Ygritte's camp she kept yelling at them to burn the bodies, and then they made sure to burn Halfhand? I'm thinking the Wildings are quite familiar with the Wights/Others, but how familiar are they? Hm...
     
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    More familiar than anyone south of the Wall. While the southerners believe that magic is gone from the world, the wildlings have always known better. People say the White Walkers have been gone for thousands of years, yet Craster clearly survives in the middle of the woods by sacrificing all of his male children to them. I would call this more speculation than spoiler but I will tag it anyway:

    The fact that all of a sudden the wildlings find it prudent to amass themselves into an army and march south, when they have nothing but scorn for anything outside of the north, is a good indicator that though the Others never really left, they are obviously up to something terrifying enough to send every single wildling packing from their ancestral homes.

    I was glad they included Pyat Pree's line about how the existence of dragons had strengthened his magic. If there is one thing that I love about the series, it is the very realistic portrayal of human stubbornness in refusing to believe anything other than popular opinion. No one in living memory has seen a dragon = no more dragons ever. The White Walkers have not been seen in thousands of years = no more White Walkers ever. Magic died with the last dragon = no more magic ever. Clearly all of these points have been turned on their heads, but the beauty is that maybe only a handful of people spanning their entire world know that to be the case. It's incredible because from our point of view, shit is going down. From the common person's point of view, or even just from the King's Landing point of view, nothing out of the ordinary is happening besides a bloody war.

    Watching the season finale made me remember (as if I ever forget) why I adore this series so much. If anyone has not read the books yet, I strongly recommend it. The nuance and tiny clues that come back to kick you in the face later that have to be left out due to time constraints are so worth it.

    Oh, and as an ending note: Jon Snow is a doofus. In the books, and in the TV show. Every time I read a chapter, I echo Ygritte with a resounding, "God DAMN, you really do know nothing, Jon Snow." He's always had more courage than sense, which he probably learned from Ned Stark.
     
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    For your listening pleasures:

     
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    Man, how am I supposed to look cool when I repost that on my Facebook when it was released more than half a month ago? Ugh everyone will know I'm so behind the times.
     
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    Joffrey better die. I haven't read the books so I don't know what is upcoming. I am going to be very enraged at the fantasy land on my TV screen if that little twerp doesn't get his.
     
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    Yes I know THAT was a joke ^ . I was just ranting about king butthole.
     
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    I just got a boner watching that.
     
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    That makes two of us