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Game Of Thrones: The Final Season

Discussion in 'TV Shows' started by Crown Royal, Apr 2, 2019.

  1. Smatek1001

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    I suppose I should spoiler this.
    Close enough.

    On the bright side, they don't need to build a new throne for him.
     
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    well what the fuck was the point of sending Jon to the wall to keep the unsullied happy if the unsullied were going to fuck off
     
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    And it was a shock that jon actually killed her, i am glad it ended like that.

    It wasn't a good ep, but maybe the cluster fuck of the season it was made it look better then it was, i didn't like it, but i also didn't hate it as much as the other episodes.
     
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    • Ok so Sam's radical notion could actually work here if they treat it with some gravitas. Maybe they invent a Republic like Rome did, maybe they draft a constitution and invent constitutional monarchy... nope, they invented a Kingsmoot, WHICH THE IRON ISLANDS ALREADY CAME UP WITH.
    • I get that it's a petty detail but there would be no wolfshead ships. The Starks are about as far from the coast as you can get, and the only meaningful ships in the North belong to the Manderlys of White Harbor. I mean maybe Arya commissioned a special carving before she headed out, but whatever.
    • Who the fuck was at the Kingsmoot and how did they justify certain votes? The ones that belonged:
      • Sansa - Lady of Winterfell, Warden of the North
      • Robin - Lord of the Vale, Warden of the East
      • Gendry - Lord of Storm's End
      • Tyrion - Lord of Casterly Rock, Warden of the West
      • Quentyn(?) Martell - Prince of Dorne
      • Edmure Tully - Lord of Riverrun
      • Yara Greyjoy - Lady of Pyke
      • Bronn I guess? - Lord of Highgarden, Warden of the South - MISSING
      • Grey Worm - Master of War, representing House Targaryen
        But Arya? Brienne? Davos? Yohn? Maybe the latter two are non-voting advisors, but then where are the advisors for the rest of them?
        Sam I guess could represent the Citadel in a pinch, but with the time that has passed they should be able to send a senior maester. And who the fuck were those two randos? Other than the Reach I can't think of any region that wasn't represented already.
    • For a second I thought they were going to Dark Tower it and Jon would turn into a white walker and become the Night King, and Bran would become Bran the Builder and rebuild the wall and time would be a flat circle.
    • Too many "for the lols" moments, like Edmure's sword clang and Tyrion being omitted from the history. Also how does a maester bang out a history faster than a small council gets assembled?
     
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    Also because I wasn't here for Ep 5:

    I've never seen an episode of TV that was worse written yet better directed. Holy shit they directed the fuck out of that trash script.
     
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    I would also say the acting has be great. whole season of cersie staring out the window with just emotion from her eye it was great.
     
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    God damn it.

    THAT was the ending we waited 10 years (or some of us 23 years) to see?

    Signing that petition now...
     
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    I stand by this statement 100%, and I can’t believe it actually ended that way. As others had said, what the fuck is the point of the Nights Watch? And how did the Wall and Castle Black get magically healed? Weren’t the events only a few weeks earlier?

    The last few episodes were insanely rushed. Dany’s move to the dark side and character’s transformation was so poorly explored that it was just jarring and confusing. They needed a few more episodes or the rest of the season to really flesh that out. I wanted to see the response of the rest of Westeros after they find out about King’s Landing or when theyre receiving the letters Varys was sending off via ravens. Instead they essentially retconned the motivations of previous events to explain it. “See?! It was coming all along!”

    The major character deaths were lame. All that exposition and building for near afterthoughts. Cersei and Jamie deserves a far better send-off than that. Then we’re treated to Bran, of all fucking people, becoming King. I’m glad they didn’t do the democracy thing, that would been a little silly. But Bran? He sat on the sidelines for the last 3 seasons and wasn’t even in season 5 (I think).

    It was a shitty, rushed final season. I read an article that said it’s going to be controversial. It won’t be, because everyone is going to hate it.

    3/10
     
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    This at least is explainable. The Night King broke through at Eastwatch by the Sea, not at Castle Black.
     
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    Oh ok. I couldn’t remember exactly, but I remember Tormund being there or kind of.

    Best comment I’ve see on reddit:

    “Bran: I can never be Lord of Winterfell, I can never be Lord of anything, I'm the three-eyed raven.

    Also Bran: I'm the King”

    And on that, when the Lords asks if you would accept being the King, it would have been nice for him to give a non-autistic response for once. He said something like, “Why do you think I came all this way?”

    Okay, asshole. Theyre not asking whether you want onions on your pizza. They’re asking you to be the supreme ruler. And why the hell does he even need a Master of Whisperers? And all the other Lords are 100% ok with Starks ruling absolutely everything, even the Brexited North? Why is the Dornish guy even there?

    The best part of the finale was Dany’s speech. Emilia Clarke sold the shit out of that. I wonder if she’d ever admit it, but it seemed heavily influenced by Hitler’s speech when he took over from Hindenburg, complete with fascist imagery.
     
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    I’ve watched every episode but between this thread and Reddit I’ll be skipping this last one, they took a great show and shit all over it these last two seasons.
     
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    I definitely thought of Hitler during that speech. That’s the first thing that came to mind with her tone and cadence. It was a very bleak and dark scene for celebrating a victory.
     
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    In the context of that fictional universe, the ending was completely nonsensical.

    One of the people at that meeting was now the legitimate direct Male heir of the only popular king in living memory, and none of the various factions hated him. Also, there was literally nobody else alive with a hereditary claim to the throne to challenge him, as Jon's heritage is only backed up by the word of his family and closest supporters. Plus, his otherwise lack of political strength would mean that the small council would retain a great deal of influence. The only reason they didn't install Gendry as king was because he wasn't an important enough character to the story.

    By choosing a cripple who will not leave an heir, they are pretty much guaranteeing another civil war when it comes time to name a successor.

    More nitpicky, but I think it would have made more narrative sense for the dragon to roast Jon. There was no real reason that it didn't, it would have given Jon a big climatic end to his arc while putting a cap on the Targaryen bloodline, and it would have made the rest of the episode more believable.
     
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    Hollywood has rules about these things:

    Mandatory ending #1 – They all live happily ever after.

    Or, Mandatory Ending #2 – The hero rides off into the sunset (“Shane, Shane, come back Shane.”

    Ending # 3 – For mega-hits only, #1 plus #2.

    They nailed it!
     
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    I mean Gendry had no army to back him up, and it seems as though Grey Worm at least had the ability to shit on some of those choices.

    That whole scene was dumbly written and superbly acted. Aside from the "Who the fuck is that, and where the fuck have they been?" response, one of the burning questions is: how did everyone know/believe that shit about Bran? What if he was just making the three-eyed raven shit up? A few people in that circle might have believed him, not everyone.

    Also, the whole thing coming from a Tyrion monologue fucked with me. No one else had good input? Like, no one else could have said, "no we can't do it that way, because.."?

    Also also, Sansa declaring the north independent made no fucking sense, because her OWN GODDAMNED BROTHER was named king. Winterfell wouldn't have bent the knee, they would have had Bran as ruler no matter what.
     
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    Let Dany rule after what she did one whole entire episode ago? I don’t think so.

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    Once again, Dumb and Dumber crams in an entire season in to one fucking episode. The first half of it was great, the best of the season. Then, well....what we knew would happen happened.

    And for those of you who think this is the worst fucking up of a show never watched Penny Dreadful or True Blood. Walking Dead at least became a good show again.
     
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    The KingsMoot has to go down as an all time bad scene. I also thought Drogon melting down the Iron Throne was about as ham assed writing that Ive ever seen. The dragon knows this is the physical representation of the lust for power that doomed his mother. He has to destroy that! Brilliant! The whole episode was young adult novelist bad.
     
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    I just watched it. That was painful.

    At about 15 minutes into the episode I was already hating it, but this was the scene where it took a turn from ugly to full on cringe. When Dany died, which everyone saw coming anyway, it occurred to me how little I cared about any of the characters by now. From there on I rooted for Drogon to kill everyone. That would have at least been cathartic, after 2 seasons of running the best fantasy series ever written into the ground. Drogon burning the throne was like the end of that Southpark episode where 'they finally understand the symbolism of the mirror.' Except Southpark was joking, the people who wrote this shit were serious.

    So they named Bran as king. Another twist that's only a twist because it's so stupid no one could see it coming. People have tried to imagine the worst possible endings to the show, and they somehow surpassed that. Fuck me. Not even ten seconds into his rule he's already lost one of the seven kingdoms and half the land. Gee, do any of the other lords think he sucks at this? Nope, all hail Bran the Broken!

    They don't even explain who is in charge of Dorne or what the fuck happened with that plotline, but we do know who rules Highgarden. The Bronnster! No claim, no reason other than he randomly showed up with a crossbow when Jaime and Tyrion were having a drink. Bran seems totally fine with this appointment because Bran fucking sucks at everything. Ah hell, make him master of coin too. Sure, why not? Then Bronn starts talking about rebuilding the brothels because tee hee, that's where da fine bitches was at. Was this episode written by 14 year old dorks playing dungeons and dragons? Oh right, I know who wrote this episode.

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    These are the only deaths I will root for now. Fuck you, you fucking scum.
     
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    And Disney is banking on them for the next Star Wars Trilogy.
     
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    Who knows, Star Wars may be their sweet spot. I think GOT was just too much for them, but Star Wars may not be.