If the series finale is not all of them getting blowjobs while throwing money around, I don't want to live in this world anymore.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I sort of understand. He's been in love with her since he was 19, she's been with him through all he's accomplished. She's the mother of his kids who, for all Ari's faults, he seems to adore. As much as I want him to bang the ever living hell out of Dana Gordon, who is way hotter, I understand the loyalty to his wife. Look at Dennis Leary's character on Rescue Me, his wife is mostly a horrible bitch half the show and he is still infatuated with her, throughout his extramarital affairs for similar reasons.
I... kinda get it. It seems to me that throughout this show, the fact that they've shown Ari to have the gratuitous ability to cheat, and yet he never has? It speaks to the fact that his character does everything he does FOR his family. So if he goes back to (ugh) Melissa somehow in the last ep, I'll be ok. But fuckballs, is he better with Dana Gordon. Everyone else, I could give less than a shit about.
I was about to say, you don't drop someone you've known since you were 19 and have been with for 20 years, with kids, because of less than a year of problems. It doesn't happen. People can't drop being they've known for 6 months that easily sometimes. Is Dana better in every way? Yes. But even she understands he can't quit on his family like that...plus "It's his fucking house!" Now to go with Roxanne, this guy Carles wrote an article about Entourage which I've came to accept. The show is just about bros hanging with bros. And its about you hanging out with the characters. Are the plots always on point? No. Is this relationship stuff not the best stuff to watch? No. But we're still going to watch it because we want to spend time with the characters. If these guys were real, we'd want to go and just shoot the shit with them because we want them to be our bros. But bros have ups and downs sometimes and bros have to...Bro up eventually.
I'm just targeting the article, not Parker's post. Carles is way the fuck off as to why I watch, and have become disappointed with, Entourage. Bro. (And seriously, the 'bro' device was somewhat amusing the first 5 billion times in the article... ...yeah, it wore off sometime in 2007)... and we're back. Maybe I'm different. My introduction to Entourage was 2 days after my dad died. I was home, looking for something to watch, and saw that the whole first season was On Demand. I figured I'd give it a shot and watched the first episode. 5 hours later, I had seen the whole first season and had laughed like I hadn't laughed in years. Why did I laugh? A bunch of reasons. Turtle: everyone has that friend. He's loyal, he's a character, and somehow, despite having some latent intellect and ability, utterly unable to get along in the world under his own steam. Drama: everyone knows this guy, the guy who's slightly older than the rest. Who is incredibly insecure and covers with an overload of machisimo. The guy who's read one too many Men's Magazine's articles on how to pick up chicks and what's cool. One of the best parts of the show for most of it was Drama and Turtle TOGETHER. Remember them spying on Mandy Moore? How about the Furry Episode? Seriously, these guys together were fucking hilarious. Once they split up their story lines, it was to the detriment of both characters. E is that friend that everybody hates, but sorely needs. Yes, he's bitchy when it comes to his own life, but how often has he steered Vince wrong? Almost never. And he's loyal, and he's willing to sit in the background. He knows he's a sidekick, and is eminently comfortable with that position in life. Vince. Sure, we'd all like to be Vince. Good looks, enough ability to get by without really working at it (like how often did you buy Vince when he went on about 'his craft?' It was comic relief, but all of a sudden he's now serious about movie making instead of banging chicks and million dollar pay days for looking pretty. No, what made Entourage great was it encompassed the true male fantasy: fucking, drinking, and hanging with guy friends without consequence, in fact, being celebrated for it. At its core, this is what made Entourage resonate with so many guys. We have girlfriends (none of which are as hot as Vince's), we have friends that are loyal (but not quite as loyal as E), we have friends that are mooches (but not as unabashedly as Turtle) and we all have friends/siblings that want to be as successful as they perceive we are (even if they're not as blatant about it as Johnny Drama). And we all want that older voice of reason, who seems to get us, even if we don't, in the voice of Ari. Let's face it, Ari knew what they all were from episode one, and didn't get them what they wanted. He got them what they needed. That's why I liked Entourage. And that's why I think it's become a disaster, it's no longer a male fantasy. It's become a female fantasy about what the male fantasy OUGHT to be, instead of what it really is. I'll end with this. Bill Maher said it best: Men's fantasies disgust women, and women's fantasies bore us.' And boy, am I fucking bored. Thank God there's only one episode left.
No, you're not different, I think you're right on the money. Great quote, by the way. When I said that Entourage was like "Sex and the City for men", this is exactly what I meant. I didn't mean it pejoratively - I meant that it was a simple show about a male fantasy lifestyle and just generally being a baller-ass individual, the same way that Sex and the City presented an exciting lifestyle geared towards women. Lately, the show has seemed to miss a lot of what made the characters so appealing in the first place and now the whole thing feels like a mess. None of the shit I'm watching makes sense.
I just started reading that post and started saying "Yeah...yeah...he's right." I think Carles sort of gets at that. In that you want to hang out with those guys or you sort of do. Carles labels himself as a hipster something so I can never agree with everything he says. Your post was on point, but could they do that for 7 seasons? Not really. But splitting up Turtle and Drama was massively detrimental to the show. I went back to watch some of their scenes and they're fucking golden. We got a taste of it in the first episode and then no more. Also, Andrew Dice Clay was on the Adam Carolla podcast earlier this week, talks about this stint on Entourage.
This is exactly what I am talking about. Won't lie, I never identified with any of the characters and people in my real life. They did have funny characters that were put in funny situations. There was a fantasy aspect to it. But I didn't see any of my "bros" in these people. Remember when James Woods had a freak out? Classic. It used to focus on being funny.
Exactly. My fondest memories of "Entourage" involve celebrities playing slightly exaggerated versions of themselves. James Woods' stalking Drama for for movie tickets was great. So was M. Night Shyamalan creeping Ari out about a script. Seth Green was always money when he showed up, and while my own personal favorite celebrity inclusion was Eric Roberts tripping in the desert with the guys I think most fans will point back at Matt Damon shaking down Vince for a charity check as the show's signature cameo. At some point, I think the producers felt that their show had to follow a typical dramedy formula that ends with the characters in a different place from where we met them. "Sex and the City" is a perfect example and apropos considering its shared HBO roots, but I find it interesting that more showrunners don't consider the success of another HBO series and its precursor: "Curb Your Enthusiasm" and "Seinfeld". Neither of those shows have any pretense about redeeming their main characters, and people turn in every day to see what kind of shenanigans Larry David and Jerry Seinfeld get involved with each week. I wish "Entourage" had taken more of a slant towards that model, because it's gang of five weren't exactly created to be all that deep when you get down to it.
Spoiler I would brag about nailing the finale, but my 6 year old could have come up with the ending. I'm guessing the writers are pushing for an entourage movie Ala sex and the city. Blah. That epilogue completely reversed everything they tried to write for Ari this season. They should have had a set of hot stewardess twins reading to bang Vince on the way to his wedding. It would b akin to that. Move along folks. I am not encouraging this behaviour by missing the show.
What the hell was that? Terrible finale. Nothing made any sense -- did Vince drug Sophia and Sloan, is that why their attitudes changed all of a sudden? And Vince falls in love with Sophia because she rejected him? And Ari, why did they constantly have him crying in this season? I hated it all.
It was naive to think the series was going to end with anything other than all the characters riding happily off into the sunset. Disappointing to see they did absolutely nothing with Turtle or Drama in this episode, and we're just lead to believe they're going to succeed. This was especially true with Turtle. They spent so much time detailing his tribulations with the restaurant in the previous episode. Is he still doing it even though the couple from Queens suck? Why do they have to go to such an extreme with Vince? All these years of philandering, and 24 hours with one girl he's ready to get married. They couldn't just have him say "I think I love this girl!" Also, her character does not seem like the impetuous kind to get married on a whim. It was nice to give Ari some range this season and make him a bit more emotional, but it went overboard. They did absolutely nothing with Lloyd this season, which was such an injustice. For a show that was all about friendship and brotherhood, Lloyd was left out in the cold. I guess it was nice they at least acknowledged him in this finale. Frankly the whole thing reminded me of those cliche plays (like "The Importance of Being Earnest") where people forget all the shit they went through and are happy as everything works out for them in the very end.
The original plan was to make a movie after this season. Is there anything left to look forward to? Downward. Spiral.
You know....I don't necessarily like the ending they gave, but I understand what they were going for. The one thing that has tied this show together (besides gratuituous nudity and showing how awesome it is to be rich and famous) is that all that stuff ends up being superfluous to family and friendship. That having all the fortune, fame, and amazingly good luck was all arbitrary as long as they had each other.....which goes back to Vince moving back to New York, Vince and E's insistence to separate business and personal, etc. The end of the show parlayed that exact message- without your friends and family, you can't make it on your own. Look at the end results... Turtle- Fucked if it weren't for Vince making that call to Cuban Drama- Fucked if Vince hadn't ponied up 100k to the charity Vince- Fucked had it not been for Drama and Turtle getting involved with Sophia. Also fucked had his friends not stuck by his side during and after his coke binge E- Fucked had the guys not gotten involved with Sloan Ari- Fucked if he let his family slip away over his business priorities Its not necessarily the ending we hoped for....but I get it. Its been the shows deep message all along that usually got tossed to the side in favor of all the awesome shit fame can bring. You can be as wealthy and powerful and famous as you want, but without your "bros" and your family with you, there's no point to any of it. Thats what I got the most out of Ari's turn this season. He had his company, he was making serious bank, he was still one of the biggest power brokers in entertainment....but none of it mattered because he was losing his family. Like I said, I never took Entourage to be preachy, never really wanted any deep meaning to it.....but I at least understand it. Good or bad....it is what it is. I had my fun watching the show. I'll miss the guys and pining over the life they lived. PS- The final ass shot of Mrs. Ari was fantastic.
Oddly enough, I thought they gave Lloyd a pretty fitting sendoff. We got to hear one of Ari's maniacal "LLOYD!!!" screams when he was looking for the opera CD, get insulted for being gay, and got to see Ari give him the approval he's always wanted in a touching but not sappy moment: Easily the best written moment of a terrible episode.
For a show I once considered to be my favourite, this has done nothing but limp to the barn the last two seasons. THESE are the characters I loved so much (Not E)? Turtle a millionaire??!?! That utter idiot couldn't get a fucking job selling live bait if he wanted to. Ari a mess? Vince getting married? COME ON. Downward. Fucking. Spiral. The "everything works out" conclusion was a cop-out written in five minutes. Thank you Scott Caan for almost single-handedly saving the life of this show. And now, we have the movie to "look forward" to. *By the way, who was that mouthy, creepy-looking blonde with the bad facial plastic surgery in the jewellry store with Vince and Walsh? Am I supposed to know who that is?
It sucked, but many (including Roy Jones and my wife) saw the ending coming a mile away. The better ending? Truly making them an "Entourage" - having them buy the original house they lived in, having Ari move in with them because he lets loose on Mrs. Ari with a spectacular verbal rampage pointing out what a vapid money grubbing success tailcoating cunt she's always been. Vince banging Sophia and walking out saying "Now I know why I don't bang smart chicks." Turtle getting shot down by superhot women. Drama bumping into Daniel Radcliffe and asking if there's going to be another "Harry Potter" and if so, is there a part in it for him? E shoving sloan down the stairs after banging her. Ok, ok, he doesn't bang her first. Sigh. What could have been. Entourage, I'll always love you for the laughter you brought me during some dark times, but you deserved a far better ending.
That scene after the credits makes it look like a movie/tv show spin off will only center around Ari no?
Looks like this is the case. I have a feeling Drama and Turtle will be in it. E and Vince will most likely not be in it. Doug and Mark are hellbent on making a movie. No one else in the town can stand Jeremy Piven so we will be going for it. I knew the ending was coming and due to watching the Car Show where Doug Ellin said "There is going to be a movie" in no uncertain terms, I expected very little. I loved the Turtle and Drama scene at Sloans. I love EC's tits even more. Don't know to give the MVP to EC's tits or Mrs. Ari's ass. Holy fuck I'd kill all of you, my friends, and family if my wife looks anything like that in her 40s. I'm looking forward to the movie if it is all Ari. I can't get enough of him.