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Elephants and Jackasses...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Nettdata, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. Jimmy James

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    Maybe, and I'm just sort of thinking out loud here, but if the filibuster was gone and Democrats were able to legislate paid family leave, climate change initiatives, and all the other stuff that would actually be a benefit to millions of people, maybe Democrats wouldn't have to worry about losing.
     
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    Until the Republican's have the power and push through what they want.
     
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    After 30 years in the Senate, Biden can’t figure out how to successfully navigate a razor-thin majority held by his own party? Lulz.
     
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    Kamala Harris’s staff would agree, at least. And it’s also how Trump’s WH was. You were only as good as the last thing you said that pleased him.
     
  5. dixiebandit69

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    Okay, can someone tell me what's so bad about the voting rights bill?
    The only thing I hear from the right-wing news outlet I listen to is " THEY WANT TO FEDERALIZE ELECTIONS! THE NEXT STEP IS COMMUNISM!"

    Besides, the Republicans have been doing everything they can to stack elections in their favor (look at what they've done in Texas. Just fucking look at it.).


    Dude... The republicans vote as a block, with very few exceptions (Ex: McCain). They do whatever McTurtle tells them to, or they get primaried.
     
  6. dixiebandit69

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    Here's the thing about conservative talk radio (which I listen to because there are no other news outlets on the radio in the Asshole of Texas): they only tell you the GOOD parts of the conservative news, and the BAD parts of the Dem/ Liberal/ Progressive news.
    I find out the other side once I get home and get on the internet.

    I am not reading through all of that shit (I tried, briefly...), as I'm working on my own buzz right now. Thanks for posting it, though!
     
  7. Jimmy James

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    Unlike you fine folks, I am sober so I took a look at this.
    • Same day and automatic voter registration
    • Make Election Day a holiday
    • Grant early voting and vote by mail
    • Set guidelines on purging voter rolls
    • Prohibit voter registration interference
    • Protections for election officials
    • Voting system guidelines
    • Non-partisan redistricting
    • Banning foreign nationals from donating money to campaign
    • Campaign finance spending reporting
    There is literally nothing in this bill that I've seen that would justify voting against it, unless you're a political party with a vested interest in maintaining minority rule. Maybe.
     
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    See, THIS, right here is what I read about the voting rights bill once I get home.

    Can any critics/ Trumpers explain why that stuff is bad?

    "BuT cOmMuNiSm!" isn't a valid response.

    One last thing: just for the record, I have made an effort to keep my "official" address at my dad's old house.

    Why? Because it's really easy to vote there.
    In and out in ten minutes.

    It's not the same thing for Jungle Julia; last election, she had to wait for over two hours.

    TELL ME THAT'S NOT FUCKED UP.
     
  9. Nettdata

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    That’s all well and good, but isn’t it unconstitutional to implement this at the federal level considering voting procedure is specifically delegated to the states? Particularly bullets 2, 3 and 7?
     
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    If we just got rid of voting, everything would be better.
     
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    Or if we just reverted voting rights back to 1809, we'd be in good shape.
     
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    Really is sad how often the 19th Amendment is brought up and shit on as the cause of all of our current woes by right leaning boards online. Angry MGTOW divorcees and on and on.
     
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    There's a part of the Constitution where it states "in cases where the states insist on fucking shit up royally it is up to the Federal Government to step in and safeguard citizens' rights". We don't leave Civil Rights up to individual interpretation, Voting Rights should get the same consideration in the face of blatant bad faith actions.
     
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    The burden for making that case seems pretty high, particularly around the provisions I called out. The others may be fucked up, but if just one doesn't pass the sniff test in terms of constitutionality, they may throw the whole thing out.
     
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    Really I think it’s the women who are fucking up the voting. How about we give them a fraction of a vote each?
     
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    But then people can still vote, and that means the wrong decisions can still be made.

    We all know which side is correct, so why not let them just be in charge? They could even make not agreeing with them illegal. Then we wouldn’t have to worry about any future issues.
     
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    Congress clearly has the power to set baseline standards for federal elections, as long as the administration of the elections themselves remains in state hands. It's not like this is a new thing, the Voting Rights Act stood for decades before the Republican SCOTUS decided it was inconvenient to their purposes. There are also less direct routes toward the same thing such as: