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Elephants and Jackasses...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Nettdata, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. Jimmy James

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    This is why it is important that he never holds office again.

     
  2. downndirty

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    The thing you're overlooking is it takes just one whistleblower or individual who's willing to participate to destroy the whole notion. It's simply not going to work like that: if the entire IC says something is likely going on, it probably did. "Small group of well-placed individuals" isn't how our government works at fucking anything, and you're well aware of that. It's easier to spread a lie in the news than it is in the IC, and there are independent cells whose entire job is to verify what other analysts are seeing.

    I'm reminded of the joke that the people who believe these conspiracies exist should be project managers: it's someone's full-time job to get 12 people to do theirs for a little while. You're talking about a misinformation campaign at various levels of government, with mind-boggling implications, complexities and consequences with nothing being discovered about it, ever? You ever try to plan a vacation with more people than can fit in one car? Your faith in these mischievous govvies is far higher than it needs to be, putting aside your belief in their malice. There's also the huge disconnect between "Ok, there's WMD's in Iraq" or "Trump had illegal foreign help to win the election" and the actual consequences of that information that no one could predict or control. The possibility that you're being lied to, and no one else on Earth in the mainstream: 1) has also discovered that, 2) isn't mad enough to tell someone, 3) wouldn't want to expose the conspiracy and 4) somehow thinks they should keep this information very secret is so small, it's absurd to consider it reality, in direct opposition to what the rest of us accept as true.

    Sure, bring the lot of them under investigation, I'm good with that. Who should go first?
    And yeah....the cases are different. That's how our justice system works. The "billionaire" President whose kids just earned hundreds of millions while in the employ of the government inciting a Goddamned riot and an insurrection because he lost is different than Representative McDickCheese shorting a stock based on a briefing. Neither is acceptable, one is a threat to democracy. I'm good with starting with the existential threat first, and making sure it doesn't happen again.

    "Someone" doesn't decide. We do. When the process of accountability begins, we cannot fall back on party lines and be like "well, he's on my team, so I don't want him held responsible." That is unacceptable, and it's pretty much what's happening now. Some things have to happen regardless of red or blue, and ensuring the events of the 6th don't happen again is fucking one of them.

    I'm disgusted by the GOP's refusal to hold him accountable for anything, and worried that this lack of accountability will extend to the Democrats.
     
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    So we didn't tell Hans Blix to go fuck himself, or hype up our "Coalition of the Willing" with the countries who actually went along with the bullshit?
     
  4. Crown Royal

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    Yes, that is exactly what didn’t happened. And UNwilling countries would have been laughing the entire time, if only America wasn’t committing an illegal invasion, and therefore terrorism.

    Our country sat out the Iraq invasion because we’re not stupid, and not single person in our country thought Iraq was even a threat in any way. One of our best decisions.
     
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    If some of that video had aired previous to today I must have missed it, hopefully more people will be calling into the FBI with tips, hell of a close before dinner break.
     
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    I read about this earlier, and don’t have anything to really add about it, except...

    I get really depressed about what seems to be a lack of reading/listening comprehension. That dude’s caption says:
    “Sen. Kennedy puts words in Neera Tanden's mouth, suggests she called Bernie Sanders ‘an ignorant slut’ on Twitter (this never happened)”
    Guy literally said, on camera in the first video “Y-y-y-you call Senator Sanders everything but an ignorant slut!”

    I’m not saying this senator’s point was well made or eloquent or anything, I’m just saying...that’s like the exact opposite of suggesting that she called Bernie that specific thing.
     
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    I just don’t like the way he said ‘slut’. Made my skin crawl.
     
  9. Crown Royal

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    Let’s all not pretend that Kennedys don’t have a complete and utter proclivity to being shitfaced at work. Or in other places too, dredge a river and find out. Whiskey and ambien is their morning coffee for those rich retards.

    In other news, the very few current GOP members with balls and common sense like Ben Sasse are now being censured by their own party. Because it’s not about country first, it’s about building a cult of personality towards a failure of a has-been clown. Because retards.
     
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    I think that’s part of my point. There’s enough about him and this exchange to criticize when you just honestly show it.
     
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    He’s not part of THE Kennedy family, right?
     
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    Is there another Kennedy family that won’t go the fuck away that I’m unfamiliar with? There aren’t enough lousy flight conditions and ski slope trees to get rid of them.
     
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    Kennedy’s are historically democrats.
     
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    If only we all had access to a nearly limitless compendium of knowledge!

    Senator Kennedy was a Democrat until 2007, when he switched parties.
    He is not related to the famous Kennedy family, but he is related to author John Kennedy Toole.
     
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    They also suck. After Teddy’s little “How To Lose A Girl In Ten Beers” incident I consider them indefensible.
     
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    The movie about it that came out a few years ago showed just what entitled scumbags their entire family was. His father helped get him off the hook for murder and also had his sister lobotomized for having ADHD or whatever.
     
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    It’s not like they didn’t have an abundance of kids. After lobotomizing her daughter, Mrs. Kennedy became pregnant and gave birth to triplets that same afternoon. All the zombie-children are kept in a secluded, locked wing of the manor where the occasional housekeeper is never heard from again.



    Ted Kennedy killed a woman drunk driving and refused to report it for ten hours. He deserved to be in prison, not re-elected half a dozen times.
     
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    True, but in American politics it usually means “money got me here.”
     
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    Anyone else annoyed at the snuff films of the 6th?

    We get what happened, the question is "Is Trump responsible?"

    Considering they were wearing his merch and carrying his flags and dozens of them have said "I was doing what Trump told me to do", you'd think the answer is obvious. I think the constitutionality question (or more accurately, the legal question of "can you impeach someone who's not in office?") was their best shot of getting this tossed out.

    Since that didn't work, the GOP seems now ready to acquit, acknowledging the reality that almost half the electorate doesn't believe the election is legitimate, re-igniting the tension. Funny how none of them said "oh, MY election wasn't legitimate, so let me step down." Only Trump's loss seems to be the issue. Funny how that works...
     
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    Watching Joe Kennedy lose his primary to Markey was a great American moment.