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Elephants and Jackasses...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Nettdata, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. xrayvision

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    He’s on a whole slew of meds that are typically reserved for severe cases. Yet they are reporting that he could be discharged as early as tomorrow? And he wants to get back to the campaign? None of this information computes. And if he is in fact ready to get back to it, it makes me wonder if this whole thing was just a stunt to take the focus off the debates. Between the lying doctor, the staged photos, doctored videos, press releases with typos, and straight lying, from the admin, it’s just pure chaos.
     
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    And while member after member of the GOP reports being hospitalized or testing positive, Trump's campaign advisor is out saying Biden is using his mask as a prop.
     
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    Trump’s latest video promised a surprise for his supporters outside the hospital - he then did a little motorcade drive-by.

    Exclusive photo from Trump’s SUV:

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    Watch the video again. There are some obvious edits to it as well. Look at his second button on his shirt at the 8-9 second mark.

    The more they try to point out how healthy he is, the less likely I think it is to be true.
     
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    I mean, I see the button. He moves his arms earlier in the video and it makes the same type of jumpy shadow. However, looping it, that same spot sounds like an audio blip from a really hasty crossfade so you may be right. I’m also under the impression it’s multiple takes edited together.
    Hell, maybe it’s a green screen. Nothing is off the table.
     
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    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/04/covid-19-trump-medical-team-briefing-426025

    As a determination of the team based predominantly on the timeline from the initial diagnosis that we initiate dexamethasone. – White House physician Dr. Sean Conley
    Dexamethasone – a safe, inexpensive steroid that has been around for decades – is generally reserved for patients with severe or critical Covid-19 cases. The National Institutes of Health and World Health Organization both recommend the drug for patients on supplemental oxygen or ventilators, based on a large clinical trial that found it reduced the risk of death. But both guidelines warn the drug could harm people who don’t require oxygen therapy or a ventilator, and should not be used for such patients. Trump's doctors said Sunday that he has received oxygen therapy twice for limited periods. They also said he’s run a fever. The decision to give Trump dexamethasone shows that “he’s actually having effects on his lungs from the virus,” said Abraar Karan, an internal medicine doctor at Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston.

    The president yesterday evening completed his second dose of remdesivir. He's tolerated that infusion well. – Dr. Brian Garibaldi
    Remdesivir is an antiviral drug made by Gilead Sciences originally developed to fight Ebola. Trump’s doctors said Friday that he had begun the standard-five day course of infusions of the drug. Remdesivir has been shown to speed recovery, but it’s not clear if it actually reduces the risk of death. The Food and Drug Administration has authorized emergency use in hospitalized patients.

    Late Friday morning, when I returned to the bedside, the president had a high fever and his oxygen saturation was transiently dipping below 94 percent. Given these two developments, I was concerned for possible rapid progression of the illness. I recommended the president we try supplemental oxygen, see how he would respond. He was fairly adamant that he didn't need it. He was not short of breath. He was tired, had the fever and that was about it. And after about a minute, on only two liters, his saturation levels were back over 95 percent. He stayed on that for about an hour, maybe, and was off and gone. – Dr. Conley
    Another oddity of Covid-19: some patients’ oxygen levels fall, but they don’t have trouble breathing. That’s why doctors watch blood oxygen levels. The president’s physicians gave him oxygen after his level dropped below 94 percent — a key threshold for Covid-19 patients. Dipping below that level signals that a patient’s case is moderate or severe, with the exact diagnosis depending on other vital signs, according to the CDC. “Once you drop below 94 percent, by definition you have severe Covid,” said Carlos del Rio, an infectious-disease expert at Emory University.

    What did the X-rays and CT scans show? Are there signs of pneumonia? Are there signs of lung involvement? Or any damage to the lungs? – Reporter
    We're tracking all of that. There's some expected findings but nothing of any major clinical concern. – Dr. Conley

    Trump’s doctors repeatedly ignored questions about what CT scans or other advanced imaging he had, and what they showed about his lungs. His doctors said only they had seen “expected findings.” Their admission that the president’s oxygen saturation had dropped below 94 percent at times, that he has twice required oxygen, and that he has started on dexamethasone point to at least a moderate case of Covid-19. Many patients with moderate disease develop pneumonia signaled by “ground glass opacities,” lung damage that appears as hazy white patches on CT scans. These develop when the virus injures tiny air sacs, filling them with pus or other fluid and making it harder to breathe. Trump’s doctors have not revealed whether he has this type of damage; if he did, it would be a reason for heightened concern.

    Yesterday you told us that the president was in great shape, had been in good shape and fever free for the previous 24 hours. Minutes after your press conference White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows told reporters that the president's vitals were very concerning over the past 24 hours. Simple question for the American people, whose statements about the president's health should be believed? – Reporter
    White House officials and Trump’s medical team have issued seemingly contradictory assessments of the president’s condition and the timing of his diagnosis since Trump announced his diagnoses on Twitter early Friday. That has made it harder to know how sick Trump is or how far along he is in the course of the disease. “What jumped out is the continued lack of information on several critical aspects,” said Leana Wen, a former health commissioner for Baltimore and ER physician. “What is the president’s respiratory status? There is no chance that the President wouldn't have had multiple chest imaging studies done at this point. It would be standard of care to do at least daily.”

    If he continues to look and feel as well as he does today, our hope is that we can plan for a discharge as early as tomorrow to the White House where he can continue his treatment course. – Dr. Garibaldi
    The possible discharge from Walter Reed National Military Medical Center so soon raised eyebrows. Patients’ condition often worsens about seven to 10 days in. “The beginning of that second week is a phase we pay particular attention to,” said Helen Boucher, chief of infectious disease at Tufts Medical Center. Remdesivir must be administered in a hospital setting. Of course, the White House has far more medical capacity than your average home, and can airlift the president to a hospital by helicopter. But it’s still possible his medical team will reconsider and advise the president to remain at Walter Reed. But several doctors not involved with his care said it may be fine to discharge Trump, given the White House’s medical resources. “Once they see him turning for the better, and he’s getting better, I think they're right to go back to the White House,’” said Emory’s del Rio.
     
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    https://youtu.be/D1YHdHw-doQ?t=104
     
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    This motherfucker just took a joyride in a hermetically sealed car while having an infectious disease being hopped up on steroids and anti-viral cocktails.
    As I said earlier, anyone who says anything about "the character" of anyone hoping the worst for Trump, you've lost your right to speak for the rest of the game.
     
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    But dude, Hunter Biden had a coke problem.
     
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    Trump has a Diet Coke problem.
     
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    Gay men flooding the #ProudBoys twitter hashtag is the single best thing to come from the debate
     
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    Kellyanne Conway's daughter now has COVID
     
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    It's coming out now that Trump knew he had COVID but told his staff to not make it public, then went to a fundraiser.
     
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    This, from a Walter Reed physician:

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    In a second tweet, Phillips added: “That Presidential SUV is not only bulletproof, but hermetically sealed against chemical attack. The risk of COVID19 transmission inside is as high as it gets outside of medical procedures. The irresponsibility is astounding. My thoughts are with the Secret Service forced to play.”
     
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    How is this any different than just walking around knowingly infecting people with a virus? Because if it’s true, that is exactly what it is.

    What an absolute piece of shit.
     
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    well that's one way to get people to vote...
     
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    There isn’t even a single post that’s malicious or spiteful in any way. But it simply has made the statement that being a Proud Boy means you’re gay. And they will NEVER shake that.

    They went from “Stand By” to “Panic” in a matter of hours. Funny stuff.
     
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    $3.5 million from the Russian government buys a lot of coke, though.

    People on Twitter continue to be more or less retarded. I’m fairly certain at this point it exists for journalists and pseudo-intellectuals (Hey, like us!) to talk shit to each other. I went down some rabbit hole discussion of people talking about how the Speaker of the House picks the President if neither Trump nor Biden win a majority of electoral votes.
     
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    It's kind of fascinating how this family became the example of how toxic, divisive politics ruined an otherwise picturesque family.

    I give it a month before the daughter sues for emancipation, and a whole lot of other $hit, thanks to Mommy's new job.

    Or just goes Mendendez. Whatevs.