Elephants and Jackasses...

Warren probably had the best performance tonight.

I thought the answers on climate change were mostly good. The rest that I saw not so much. Some of the answers on things like the steel tariffs were kind of cringe. Specifically, the answers that didn't answer the question, but just said some vague Trump=bad crap. Ummm... if you can't even answer a yes, or no as to whether you would keep them the conviction behind your criticism is a little hard to buy.

I had no idea who Williamson was before tonight and... holy what the fuck. That woman is pure eat your own feces level of crazy. I think she's still polling pretty low, and I am very thankful for that.

 

I was thinking the same thing. Last cycle they let debate questions slip to their preferred candidate. During the 2nd general election debate one of their moderators repeatedly interrupted to join in, and argue with Trump, and then last night they called the president a bigot in one of their questions. Hosting the debates is a privilege that should be taken away from them.

 

I don’t even think the debates should have an audience. I get that people love the townhall style during the general election, but allowing for the audience to influence the viewers and pundits opinions is not helpful and turns them more into sporting events instead of a presentation of ideas.

Trump could never perform without an audience.

 

The stream kept playing this ad for a CNN show about the history of Movies, and it used Hans Zimmer's Superman theme as the music. The first time I saw it I legit thought it was just part of CNN's over the top production hyping up the debate.

(P.S. say what you will about Man of Steel and Dawn of Justice, but Zimmer's Superman Theme is absolute fire)

 

Debates are a waste of time where each candidate tries to be more extreme than the other just to win their party. Then, all of a sudden, they go centrist when they win the nomination.

Some of these statements are downright ludicrous and should be held against them down the line- Joe curing Cancer or all the candidates wanting free health care for illegals.

I get that this is part of the political game but it’s on the same level as a high school class president promising candy for lunch at school.

 

This was essentially a trap question. A key feature of many universal healthcare systems is that you don't need to jump through endless hoops to prove that you're "covered," you just get treated. In this way illegal immigrants would be the same as any other individual who walks in for treatment, be they tourist, legal resident, or citizen: they would receive treatment, because the hospital isn't wasting resources differentiating between those who deserve care and those who don't.

 

Well at least in my province i have a care card that gets me my free health care. So it is a very easy way to tell who is who.

 

Yeah, I was going to say, how hard would it be to show an ID?

That doesn’t sound like a lot of hoops to jump thru to keep medical costs in check. But with idiots foaming at the mouth over Joe curing Cancer, it’s not a surprise to promise the world just to get the nomination.

 

I mean, this is a country that doesn't have a national ID because people lose their shit whenever it's proposed because it's the first step to taking their guns.

 

State IDs would work as would Social Security cards. It’s the same argument for not having identification at voting booths because of disenfranchisement. Give me a break.

 

The big difference between the left and right is that most left leaning individuals, including myself, will agree that the opposition has some good points and are willing to compromise.

I’ve yet to meet a republican willing to concede on anything and everything including Trump. They’re 100% right and everything else is “fake news”.

 

Same reason state IDs prevent the poor from voting. If you have no form of government ID, voting is the least of your worries.

 

What do you do if they don't have ID? Refuse to treat them? So they end up at the ER which is a bigger burden on the system anyway? Our system has been penny wise and pound foolish for decades, and this is just more of the same. "Democrats want to give illegal immigrants healthcare" is just a cynical way of rephrasing "Democrats want a more streamlined healthcare system with less overhead, less total costs, and better patient outcomes."

 

Less total costs? What magic fantasy land do you live in where you think the last sweeping changes of Obamacare or any new proposed changes will result in less total costs? Shifting costs from one group to another? Possibly. Shifting revenue from one group to another? Yes.

 

You don’t think that’s a huge incentive for illegals to come over? “I guess that’s how our system is setup, god forbid we challenge the status quo”.

 

I think it's an issue with our immigration system, not with the healthcare proposals, and I think Republicans cynically know that if they can turn a winning issue for Democrats (healthcare) into a winning issue for them (immigration) they'll do better at the polls.

 

Mario Lopez retracts his statement about 3 year olds being introduced to trans lifestyles.

Anyone objecting to this- would it be appropriate to introduce a 3 year old to a heterosexual lifestyle?

Why are people so scared of saying “no” to the trans community when it comes to minors? How about no sex education at 3 for any kid?

 

Because preventative care is cheaper than emergency care. If you want a cheaper system, you either need to expand access to preventative care (which means universal coverage), or reduce access to emergency care (which is currently illegal).