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Elephants and Jackasses...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Nettdata, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. Kampf Trinker

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    For one thing your social life and academic life are different things, but regardless of whether Harvard itself should care you're either missing what my question was, or choosing to ignore it. It was what is the point in being happy about all this? It wasn't directed at you anyway though because I already know your answer. Because he's a conservatahd. Yes, and you hate how conservatives are just out to get the libtahds.

    And how.

    You have the strangest logic I've ever seen. You use racial slurs towards people, but think others should be punished forever for it. You want equality, but when someone says people should be treated the same you call them a racist and yell a bunch of racist shit at them. You think it's a white supremacist society, but white supremacy is immediately punished by society. When we elect a black president it means little, but when a white candidate beats the other white candidate it's because of white supremacy. You rail against the harshness of the prison system, but want a teenage edgelord to pay forever.

    Your entire reason for staying angry at this kid forever is you choose to blame him for what someone else might do, even though you don't know that it has even happened in this case. Seems to me you want to stay mad forever because you're an extremely pissed off, bitter person. The depth you're at to demand some special victim status is just pure nuts, man. If all the white supremacists are getting punished and they're nearly all white supremacists - I mean, do you really not see the problem here? Why do you get a decent job, and a house, and equal rights if it's all about white supremacy? How does a society defined by white supremacy elect black presidents? You can try to spin it any way you want, but on it's face it's full blown fucking nuts. And I really think that's it, you want to be a special, special victim so you can't accept that progress has happened.

    I find it amazing too that you think because I'm white I've never seen racial slurs become casually used. Racial slurs about white people are the only ones that are casually used in the mainstream (like you use them!). I'm not going to cry a river over it, but hey, if you're not going to notice really fucking obvious things, maybe you should relax a little about screaming at people over their ignorance.
     
  2. bebop007

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    I find it interesting that the people most likely to bitch and moan about how nobody is held accountable for their actions today are now complaining that somebody is being held accountable for their actions.

    If 18 is clearly too young to learn anything, what age is good to start learning?
     
  3. Kampf Trinker

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    Well, just for me, I'm usually talking about corrupt politicians, which is a completely different universe in my mind.

    Maybe if people cared about that more than what someone said to their friends at 16 we would be better off.
     
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    I even say the word extra loud when it’s used in hop-hop songs, just like all white people. There we go, giving away our secrets online again.
     
  5. Jimmy James

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    I cannot believe that some of you think there's an equivalence between a white guy using the n-word and a minority calling a white person a jar of mayonnaise.

    Let's take a trip down memory lane, shall we?

    In the United States, white people have marginalized minorities by using slavery, Jim Crow, lynchings, riots, internment camps, discriminatory laws and the like, for hundreds of years. Even now, minorities are still at a disadvantage compared to white people when it comes to education, financial outcomes, and life expectancy. There has never been a time where minorities have had the same advantages a white person has.

    When a white person uses a racial slur, it has the power of hundreds of years of marginalization behind it. A minority calls a white person a jar of mayonnaise. The same white person who has freely admitted to not caring about how his words affect minorities and has admitted to saying things way worse in private that he feels guilty about.

    Of these two instances, which is more impactful? The white guy who has his feelings hurt because they equated his skin color with a condiment? Or the minority who gets reminded of all the rapes, murders, and injustices committed against his race by white people, and the feeling of disempowerment because he knows he can't do anything about it? If anybody is able to point out a period in American history where white people were treated the same way they treated minorities for hundreds of years, I'd be happy to apologize and start giving serious consideration to how wrong I am about race and listen more to white people.
     
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    I just found this hilariously on the nose given the recent posts:

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    Let’s take it back!

    MAYONNAISE POWER!
     
  8. Kampf Trinker

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    And I find it hilarious that you're pretending anyone is acting like that guy on here, you're too dense to get how ridiculous it is to lecture someone on racial slurs while using them, and that this whole specific topic arose because I said treat everyone equally. What a stupid fucking reason to throw a tantrum at someone.
     
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    I'm not lecturing anyone on racial slurs, I'm saying that I have no sympathy for an edgelord little shit facing the consequences of being an edgelord little shit, despite some folk acting like this is the most grievous injustice ever perpetrated upon mankind.
     
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    Dude, you bringing this up was a post in defending him for saying something dumb as a teenager. Then it turned into bitching about getting fired from your job for not being on your best behavior, then defending him again. Are you concussed or something? It would explain you either completely missing the point of my post on the power imbalance racial slurs have when they're coming from a white person and a minority, or ignoring it completely because despite the fact that white people have it better, your life is apparently so shitty you're unable to see it. Which is it?
     
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    Stop with the personal attacks already.
     
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    Did I just shit myself?

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    You don't get to say out of one side of your mouth that racial epitaphs are never to be said and then out of your other say, well actually it's cool IF. Im sure everyone is well aware of the power dynamic and history behind it. Nom is always free to come along and regale us with the obscure early 20th century origins of the topic if someone doesn't. If it's wrong it's wrong and your contention seems to be in a vacuum where minorities are directing them only at whites.This is myopic and counter to your other contention that saying racial epitaphs normalizes their use and lets racism/bigotry persist. Surely you're aware that minority groups direct bigotry towards other disenfranchised groups they may or may not have power over themselves. Say the black community vs the lgbt community. Someone has been stomping transexuals to death in poor Texas communities. But keep telling us whites don't get a seat at the table and objective truths don't matter because power dynamics.

    Edit: See: epithets
     
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    Epithets. Epitaphs are the things that go on your gravestone.
     
  14. Kubla Kahn

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    Ow I thought we were talking about the racial biases of the funerary art industry?
     
  15. Kampf Trinker

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    No shit, but good luck trying to convince someone who's entire argument is that the rules don't apply to them because they're special.
     
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    I can't tell if this is you saying, "well, they say it to each other, so why can't I?" Or, if you think that I think it's okay for minorities to be using slurs at other minorities. If it's the latter, then no. Minorities shouldn't be using slurs. If it's the former, I got nothing. Good luck to you in your interactions with people of color.

    Let me ask you a question. If you were in a group of people who had been oppressed by another for hundreds of years, then a member of that oppressor group said, "Well what about me and what I want?", how would you feel?
     
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    I love how you try to insert an argument I clearly wasn't making to insinuate Im just a racist looking to call minorities racial slurs. If using racial slurs against others normalizes them then any use should be objected to, for instance your use of one towards us, yes or no?

    If the group of oppressed said the sky was purple and I didn't get a say because I was the oppressor I think their feelings are clouding their judgement.
     
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    No, that was a legitimate question.

    Clearly you stopped reading my post.

    Equating idiotic hypotheticals and the continued oppression of minorites by white people is beneath you. You can do better than that.
     
  19. Nettdata

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    I find it both hilarious and sad that this is what you’re bickering over.

    With all the shit around Iran, ICE raids, $50B Palestinian aid, and a ton of other shit that actually matters, you’re stuck in this pathetic little rut.

    Come on guys, grow the fuck up a bit, will you?

    If you’re just going to bitch at each other then do it via a PM conversation, not here in public.
     
  20. sisterkathlouise

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    Bickering, trying to explain racism and oppression to a bunch of willfully ignorant white men, po-tay-to po-tah-to