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Elephants and Jackasses...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Nettdata, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. Nettdata

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    Hillary didn't make as many stops as Trump did in the final weeks of the campaign, but her stops were clustered in Ohio, North Carolina, and Florida. States she thought were winnable.
     
  3. Kubla Kahn

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    Also can we move on to a next terribly annoying catchphrase? The rent free phrase has been living rent free in my head for way too long.
     
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    I think we can at least give her until sitting Republican Senators get over her. So it doesn't look like anytime soon.
     
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    Maybe somebody can bring out some Chicken Kiev?

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  6. Kubla Kahn

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    I mean we always knew he had gone bankrupt in the 90s he wrote a book about it. Why is this some sort of new revelation?
     
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    Just the fact that he lost literally more money than any other taxpayer in America is... impressive. If the internet existed back then, he would be the king of r/wallstreetbets.
     
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    It lets us observe the Trump supporters moving the goalpost.
     
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    Because he did it when the economy was doing well.
     
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    I'd forgotten how amazingly well the US and Canadian economies were doing between the collapse of the USSR and when Putin came into power.
     
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    Every trump supporter I’ve talked to on his business credentials acknowledged he’s not had a perfect record as the tired oft repeated number of his failed businesses, or his bankruptcies. Leftist simply ignore the fact his actions as president haven’t crashed the economy as they predicted and he’s gotten negotiations out of what were supposed to be sacred cows to globalist that could never be touched. As if bringing back more manufacturing base instead of focusing on corporate quarterly profits has made the US economy stronger. Mentioning this you’ll get downplaying of Trumps role or... shifting goal post.
     
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    No one expected his business record to be perfect, but he basically is admitting to tax fraud, and he's done business with some shady fucking characters over the years. I think it's more an attack on his "brand" of business mogul, which is admittedly hollow.

    I also think the economy is headed for a downturn, and Trump's volatility, the deficit created by his tax breaks, and some of the things he's done to remove the regulatory brakes off of key industries (like real estate) will be contributors to it.

    The manufacturing base argument is kind of weak: US manufacturing has been very strong for the past 9-10 years. The jobs aren't. Automation is steadily chewing up those jobs, and it's become political theatre, because all people associate with manufacturing is sweet "pension and insurance" lifetime union jobs....which aren't coming back.

    Looking at the US economy's growth under Trump, https://apps.bea.gov/iTable/iTable.cfm?ReqID=51&step=1 not much of it came from manufacturing. A whole fuck-ton of it came from financial services...which is kind of alarming.
     
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    No he’s not. The information currently available doesnt paint an accurate picture of anything whatsoever. There are major differences between book income and tax income. What was the cash flow? What were the business returns vs his own returns? What was depreciated and when? What actual adjustments were used and how?

    Without the returns and at least a general understanding of some of the information needed above, any claims of fraud are just nonsense.
     
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    It's been a while. When does impeachment season pick up again? Never Trump on summer break?

    Today's statement from Mueller was interesting. Shame he won't be testifying, there is one question I want to hear answered that the report didn't cover.......

    When did you know there was no collusion?
     
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    Trump knew the Russians were helping his campaign, knew that his campaign had been receptive to offers of assistance, and lied about it to the public. Sounds like Mueller confirmed collusion.
     
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    Nah,Trump is too stupid to know he was being played so he lacked the mental abilities to actively collude.

    Instead he was just a pawn.
     
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    Do you think his severe level of narcissism doesn’t allow him to accept that he got played? I think he was more than willing to take whatever help was offered.

    It doesn’t allow him to comprehend any information that pierces the delicate veil he desperately tries to show that he thinks makes him look smart or tough. Or like he won the election without any help?
     
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    Yeah I just don't think he has the mental faculties required for "intent." I mean if it was someone else? Like a normal person? A thousand percent, guilty as hell. But it's like how an 8 year old can't consent to sex because they lack the mental capacity to do so. Or how a crazy person can't commit "treason" if they genuinely don't understand the meaning of them being a sitting US President.
     
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    All of this is arguably worse than if he were actually smart/mentally sound. There’s an obvious degradation in his mental faculties. I wonder how long he can hold on for before we get a real public breakdown.

    The fact that we have an entirely complicit
    GOP -1 doesn’t help either.