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Elephants and Jackasses...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Nettdata, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. Aetius

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    "Is Kamala Harris black enough?" well given that the options are her, Booker, a bunch of Democrats who are as white as a ream of paper, and an openly racist Republican party, that's a question that ultimately does not matter.
     
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    So liberals question her blackness, two of the highest level politicians in Virginia got caught wearing blackface and aren’t forced to resign immediately, a newly elected Democratic politician posts antisemitic bullshit on Twitter all within the last week and the openly racist ones are..... the Republicans. Lol.
     
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    I mean yeah. The Browns signing Kareem Hunt this week doesn't mean the Patriots aren't the greatest dynasty in football history.
     
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    Ok, if you guys are going to keep saying this like it's a given fact, I want to know what racist shit republicans have done. You're going to have to come up with something better than "want voters to get an ID" or "supported border security".
     
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    Well, there is ONE congressman in Iowa who is condemned by the whole party, so I guess there's that.
     
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    If by "want voters to get an ID" you mean "requested data on voting patterns by race and, with that data in hand, drafted a law that would 'target African-Americans with almost surgical precision,'" according to a federal appeals court.
     
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    They can’t. And instead of having actual policy positions that aren’t retarded, they hope to appeal to the emotions of morons with either identity politics or attempts at quixotic causes that no one actually gives a shit about. And they’ll wonder why Trump is going to get re-elected.
     
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    Last I remember was Texas where it was upheld. "Please bring your ID to vote." This systemic oppression is getting pretty fucking weak, isn't it?
     
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    And seriously, if this is all it takes to defeat the democrats now maybe try appealing to some voters that aren't such lazy fucks. I mean Jesus.
     
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    I'm referring to the North Carolina law that was struck down in 2016. The Texas law that was (barely) upheld, SB 5, was passed because the prior version, SB 14, was knocked down by the courts for discriminatory effect.
     
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    Appealing to morons with identity politics is literally the entire Republican playbook. You don't own a gun, you're a Gun Owner™. The Dangerous and Scary Other is invading our Southern border, and they are not like Us. Science is something done by Coastal Elites and not Real Americans™ who drive Ford Tough™ trucks. We are Values Voters™ who need to protect our family values from the gay members of our families that we kicked out. They're not even real identities, they're just bullshit cooked up in an ad agency somewhere.
     
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    GOOD POINT.
     
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    Ok, I'm going to stop defending the republicans for now because I don't even disagree that they suck in their current incarnation, but I can't help thinking there is so many better ways to expose their suckiness than the race angle.
     
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    Am I the only one somewhat surprised that there hasn't been anyone from the GOP to announce yet that they're running against trump?

    I figure a lot of potential candidates are waiting until the mueller report drops, but I'm still shocked at least one or two haven't gotten a head start on fundraising.
     
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    Yes, it's only you.
     
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    Yeah it's basically just you. A successful primary challenge to Trump would have to first win over the Republican primary electorate (a more wretched hive of scum and villainy you will not find) with zero backing from the national party, and then after having somehow run a campaign that a group with an 80-90% approval of Trump likes more than they like Trump, translate that into a general election victory against an incredibly energized Democratic voter base. It's a near impossible task that no Democrat is going to thank them for trying, and no Republican is going to forgive them for doing. Every Republican with an eye to the post-Trump future is laying low and waiting for 2024.
     
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    I just cannot figure out how requiring an ID to vote is either racist or suppressing voters. You must have an ID to drive a car, buy alcohol, get your lights turned on.. It just seems like another ploy to help Illegal Aliens to vote if you don't have to show some form of ID.
     
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    I don't understand this conspiracy theory. You think that illegal immigrants are walking up to polling booths, impersonating a legally registered voter from that precinct, crossing their fingers that said individual hasn't themselves voted yet, and then casting a single vote? You think that in a country where most of the actual citizens can't be bothered to vote, that large numbers of illegal immigrants are risking slam dunk felony convictions and eventual deportation in order to do it? Or do you think they're doing it at the point of registration, in which case they would again be committing a felony in order to enter their name and address into a government database that is scrutinized for exactly that sort of thing? What magical super-civically-engaged illegal aliens with terrible risk calculation skills are we talking about here?
     
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    The democrats have this thing on election day where they drive busses around for poor people, cram them into the voting booth, and then promptly them back out on their ass. The ID laws diminish the success rate of this, or that's the complaint anyway.

    There are a few places where illegal immigrants are allowed to vote, but it's only on shit that nobody cares about, like the school board.

    I know in Obama's first election some illegal immigrants voted according to sources like WaPo, but it wasn't anywhere near enough to matter.
     
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    Anyone here think if Beto threw his name in the ring he would become the immediate favorite over all the other dem candidates?

    If charisma matters as much to voters in the same way it did with Obama, I see him immediately jumping to the front of the line.

    There’s no a whole lot to attack him on, except for maybe lacking high level experience, but I don’t see it mattering too much if he’s in the right place in key issues.