Well I mean HW was a fighter pilot, that’s not nothin’. But I like her too. I would probably vote for her over Trump. Bernie was a joke. Likeable and honest in his convictions, yes. Admirable? Absolutely. But his stances, particularly economic ones, were hilariously idealistic and I think Trump still would have beaten him. I liked Bernie, he just wasn’t realistic.
This is why you can’t win in politics. You take a hard stance- you alienate people. You walk the bipartisan line and are called a fence sitter. My buddy is running for the libertarian ticket for councilman in GA and I wish him the best but I’d rather stick a rusty fish hook up my urethra than run for office.
He’s free to take a hard stance, but that doesn’t make it above criticism or demands for elaboration. Particularly a stance as asinine as socialism.
What's worse: the candidate who is a stupid/evil person but who's platform you support, or the person who seems like a nice and honest person but their platform is the epitome of stupid and/or evil? I ask that question without bias, as I was genuinely torn on it during the last election.
Dealing with those two choices I'd say you go with the person whose platform you support since there's hope that the ends justify the means and all that good shit. Whereas with the other person they just get run over by the system and can't keep up and you're shit out of luck. But, going with the first one also opens you up down the road to a situation where the "means" were okay when your guy was doing it, so you kind of have to shut up about it when someone else is doing the same thing.
Yeah, a lot of his economic policies were pretty bad. I supported him in large part because I detested the other candidates, and really doubt that he could have enacted a lot of the silly stuff. That said, the Bernie brand of socialism is still a powerful force in the democratic base and will be for some time. My guess is that once a few states do what Illinois almost did with the minimum wage people are going to see how poorly that government does everything for you crap actually works in practice and then the movement will start to die off. I would choose the candidate I didn't personally like, but supported their platform. That said, I have to believe they actually support their platform rather than just saying they do, which isn't going to be the case more often than not.
Sorry to bring up CNN again, but this boggles my mind. Basically, he was shouting at both Trump and Kim during the meeting, stuff like "What about Otto Warmbier!!!" There is a time and place for that sort of thing and that was not it. If he's too stupid and immature to understand that, then he shouldn't be there. It pisses me off that him screaming like an idiot like that was tolerated at all. He should have been thrown out on his ass immediately. And then for CNN to be all like "WAZZZZAPROBLEM????" Fuck you, you fucking retards. Just ban their dumbass reporters from the press conferences already. There will be other left wing outlet reporters there, that may hate Trump as much but can at least conduct themselves like adults instead of toddlers who need a pacifier put in their mouth. What a fucking joke.
He does need to calm the fuck down. There's a clip of him getting caught by a hot mic soon after the summit where his motivation becomes clear.
In CNN's own words he was shouting. Call it whatever you want, but if you can't see the problem that's profoundly sad. If people want to listen to shit trash reporters like that that's their problem, but they shouldn't be anywhere near important summits if they're going to act like that.
I guess I’m just splitting hairs on the definition of shouting. Calm down. If you don’t see a bigger problem with him rubbing dicks with KJU, I’m not sure that what I said is the thing that’s “profoundly sad”.
I don't get this mentality. So maybe Kim John Un won't follow the agreements from the summit at all. That's definitely a possibility. Ok. So... in a few months we move the troops back in and everything is back where it was before. What exactly are you so afraid of? Would you prefer they were still threatening each other instead? Would you rather the president didn't even try?
It’s not that I don’t want him to try. It’s more that I think he will do or say anything to give himself a perceived win in the court of public opinion. I just don’t believe anything that comes out of his mouth because I think his first instinct is to lie about anything regardless of what it is. I don’t think he has a real strategy. I don’t think he understands the delicate nature of diplomatic negotiations. I assume all of this on his track record of how he’s behaved his whole life and especially while in office.
In addition, by all accounts I've read, his announcement of ending all War Games simulations in the region was not known to anyone else who would actually have a serious stake in the matter, including, but not limited to, President Moon and top military command in the region.
There's the part of my brain that, despite loathing Trump, wants to see this as a historic step towards easing tensions with a rogue state. But then there's the other part of my brain that keeps telling me "Wait......wasn't Trump the one agitating NK with his fire and fury comments and Little Rocket man jibes?" I mean, our relations with them have never been great, but they seemed to worsen considerably once Trump started. And now he wants to give himself a win for easing tensions that he, himself, escalated in the first place? He's like every asshole coworker who invents "problems" that only they can "fix". And then wants to stomp around and take credit for fixing their own fuckups. I want to give Trump credit for what seems like a good step forward, but I just keep coming back to "And then what?" What does a denuclearized and, ultimately defanged, NK look like? Does this mean North Koreans are going to be free to leave their country in the future? What does that look like? Who is going to take them in? How do you integrate a populace whose only real skill is worshiping a tubby despot? Are we gonna be on the hook for aid and keeping this regime propped up? Wouldn't we rather have the Chinese drain their resources doing that. And so on. And so on.
Ok, so what are you afraid of with regards to this situation? Maybe I'm misreading what you're saying, but I'm just seeing vague statements about how Trump sucks. That is quite the twist on denuclearizing the Korean peninsula, don't you think?
That was more directed at the deescalating tensions in general which, again, he escalated. And denuclearizing hasn't even remotely happened. To say nothing of it being promised repeatedly and then NK ignoring said promises. I don't doubt that this could be a possibility. I just don't see a guy who has relieved high ranking military personnel via anti aircraft guns changing his attitude after one meeting. I think he has Trump's number down pretty well. Give him a meaningless win (a promise to denuclearize) and then watch him stomp around claiming victory while neglecting to follow up to see if it actually happens.
Unless he outright orders people not to follow up that will be done regardless. The efficacy and accuracy of those procedures will be outlined later based on the deal, and I can see that being an issue (as it was with Iran) but we'll see. I find it very telling that so many people are immediately trying to find the worst in all this. I'll call out Trump on his many fuck ups as well, but people are just doing that by default.
No, they're just students of history. I'll be quite happy to see some positive results out of this, but for now, based on what has happened in the past, KJU now has pics to show his homeland just how powerful he is... he's made the US President remove the military from South Korea. And the fact that Trump just decided that on the spot without any military input is hilarious. To say it is even remotely a success at this point is just like saying, "Mission Accomplished".
The biggest thing I don't understand is how this administration and its supporters are willing to sell the farm to reduce the the nuclear threat from North Korea, but bitched endlessly over unfreezing Iranian assets to get the same from them. We got far more for far less from the Iran deal, but that was "the worst deal ever," but suddenly a bit of positive momentum in exchange for real military concessions is the Art of the Deal in the Korean Peninsula?