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Elephants and Jackasses...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Nettdata, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. Juice

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    They can never seem to stay away from their third rails. It's as if they think the messaging is bad, rather than people just not liking the policies.
     
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    But they do stay away from their third rails. The problem is the ring-wing media apparatus just chases after them swinging the third rails at their head. Harris focused her campaign on housing affordability, lower healthcare costs, and access to abortion. It was the Republicans who kept running the "she's for they/them" ads. The pattern repeats itself every cycle: Republicans identify a vulnerable group to hate; they gin up borderline genocidal animus towards [said vulnerable group] among their base; the Democrat says "uh... I'm not in favor of mass graves for [said vulnerable group]"; the right wing media goes nuts about the Democrat wants to sell your children to [said vulnerable group]; "serious pundits" tsk tsk the Democrat for obsessing over identity instead of focusing on "kitchen table issues" despite the Democrat's entire platform being about those issues. We'll do it all over again in a few years, and we'll get a million more takes about the Democrats' "identity politics" problem, as if white nationalism isn't identity politics.
     
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    I disagree entirely. Pretending this is true is not going to yield a victory in November. And I think you polled 100 randomly sampled people, they could not tell you what the Democratic Party policy platform is.
     
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    That's kinda my point. Those 100 random idiots know what's in their feeds and in the media they consume, which are disproportionately driven by bad-faith Republican operations. The actual speeches, ads, and policy prescriptions of Democrats seeking office is fairly normie stuff focused around healthcare, the economy, infrastructure, etc.
     
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    This mentality has yet to pay off in any meaningful victory. If the plan is to keep calling voters stupid until the see the wisdom of a nonexistent platform, then we can expect a GOP midterm win.
     
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    I'm not a Democratic campaign manager. I'm not running a persuasion operation. I'm just calling it as I see it, which is that the voters are fucking stupid, and Democrats are getting bodied not by their policy positions, but by a vast propaganda apparatus the Republicans have built up over decades.
     
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    This is pretty much it. Every single media outlet is effectively owned by republicans and on top of our failing edication system, yeah the american public is exceedingly fucking stupid and easily manipulated.
     
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    I feel like it is all compounded by the fact that democrats largely still play by the rules and live in reality. It’s really hard to win a game when the other person is making up new rules and lives in an alternate reality.

    Remarkably similar to my experience playing board games with my preschooler.
     
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    Then what are you defending? I honestly can't tell if they rather win or lose and bitch about not winning.

    But I get your sentiment. The Republicans have gone so far off the deep end that any minor criticism of the Democrats is basically irrelevant. I just look at this as a zero-sum environment.
     
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    Okay so Trump is instituting tarrifs of 10% on February that will increase to 20% on June until there's compliance to buy Greenland. How bad will this turbofuck the world global economy especially ours?
     
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    "I'm going to add another 10% tax on American's until those people let me buy Greenland"
     
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    Meanwhile, we're making unprecedented deals with the Chinese, beginning to cut the US out of a bunch of our economics.

    This will have long term effects on the US economy.
     
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    Sounds like the Dems suck at messaging. I remember in 2024, the message was "Kamala is brat!"*


    *To this day, I still have not heard an adequate explanation of what "brat" means.
     
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    the short explanation:

    (candidate) is (reference to current high-selling pop music artist)
     
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    Kamala is brat > Donald is barbz
     
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    Didn't you vote for him the first time?
     
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    Nope, sounds like you need to update your dossier.