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Elephants and Jackasses...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Nettdata, Oct 14, 2016.

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  1. Aetius

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    Not only did they do that in the Congress, the Trump Administration has barred the FBI from cooperating with Minnesota police.
     
    #28421 Aetius, Jan 8, 2026 at 11:51 AM
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    Totally not a dictatorship.
     
    #28422 Nettdata, Jan 8, 2026 at 11:54 AM
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    Remember when people would tell us it was ridiculous to call these obvious fascists fascist? Better days...
     
    #28423 Aetius, Jan 8, 2026 at 11:55 AM
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    Since when do we ask the fuckwads in Congress for permission to investigate a shooting that resulted in loss of life?

    I'm not opposed to law enforcement, or even civilians, shooting armed and dangerous people that are, in the moment, acting dangerously. Video I saw, it doesn't look like a justified shooting.
     
    #28424 Fiveslide, Jan 8, 2026 at 2:24 PM
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    Also the same folks who absolutely shit themselves over anyone quoting Charlie Kirk's own words, and sent death threats and got people fired for it, are now gleefully mocking a dead mother. However much you hate Republicans, it's not enough.
     
    #28425 Aetius, Jan 8, 2026 at 2:28 PM
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    ICE agent has been identified

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    #28426 Aetius, Jan 8, 2026 at 4:31 PM
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    #28427 Aetius, Jan 8, 2026 at 7:08 PM
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    Vance said that the shooter has absolute immunity.

    Isn't that... awesome.
     
    #28428 Nettdata, Jan 8, 2026 at 7:56 PM
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    Everyday is “The government doing all the things talk radio told me they were doing in 2009”
     
    #28429 NatCH, Jan 8, 2026 at 8:08 PM
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    Welcome to qualified immunity. Political corruption since the founding.
     
    #28430 Juice, Jan 8, 2026 at 9:49 PM
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    Vance was specifically referencing absolute immunity, not qualified immunity, and claimed that a state cannot bring charges against a federal official. He's wrong on multiple counts, even by the fucked up standards of US law:
    1. Aside from the insane ruling in Trump v United States that made the President immune from prosecution, all other forms of absolute immunity relate to civil liability and not criminal liability.
    2. Rinky dink feds do not get absolute immunity. It is reserved for important folks like legislators, judges, and prosecutors, and only in the course of their legislative, judicial, and prosecutorial duties respectively.
    3. Absolute immunity is a form of sovereign immunity. However, due to the US's dual sovereignty doctrine, Minnesota is a separate sovereign from the United States, and thus the sovereign immunity of the United States does not apply to Minnesota. To claim a federal official is immune from state prosecution would require leaning on the Supremacy Clause, and the most that would give you is a removal of the case to federal court, where they would then have to argue that their actions were federally lawful and germane to their official duties.
     
    #28431 Aetius, Jan 8, 2026 at 10:29 PM
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