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Dexter Season 5

Discussion in 'TV Shows' started by hbax, Jul 24, 2010.

  1. upgrayedd

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    Rule #1. Don't get caught. I'm pretty sure Dexter is willing to do anything to ensure self preservation. Obviously that could chance, but up to this point he's willing to do anything to ensure he isn't caught. Plus, I'm pretty sure that guy in the run down boathouse earlier didn't fit the code, but he killed him anyways.
     
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    Guy in the boathouse was an emotional release from Rita, almost an accident. This was planned murder of an innocent man. Not to mention a guy that his sister could be in love with.

    I also think he is so focused on getting Lumen to her goal of killing Jordan Chase that he will not let anything get in his way.

    I'm not disagreeing with you, Rule one is fairly obvious. I just always pictured that the person to put Dexter away (other than Deb) would be a such a good man that Dexter would not be able to bring himself to kill him and let himself be captured.
     
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    He was dressed to kill, and had the needle, but as far we know, he didn't have a kill room set up. He could have been planning on asking Quinn questions or scaring him or just making sure he destroyed the evidence. Having said that, there was at least one other innocent guy killed outside of this season, when he made the mistake on that guy who was running a similar snuff film operation (his partner was actually the murderer, can't remember what season). Anyways, I've never gotten the impression that Dexter is particulary bummed out when he makes a mistake, or kills someone in self defense, and rule #1 obviously comes before any other, so I think it's safe to assume that he'd kill almost anyone to not get caught. And you're right, helping Lumen acheive her goal seems like an added incentive.

    I'm betting Deb at the very least finds out about Dexter/Lumen's involvement in these murders. Unfortunately, since every single season special guest star has been killed in the last episode, I'm expecting Lumen to go down, either changing Dexter in the process, or enraging him further and next season he'll have quit his job, sent the kids to the grandparents, and just hides out in a park killing people under a bridge all fucking day. I'd totally watch.
     
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    Great point. It would be quite a story if Deb shoots Lumen at some point. That could cause an emotional unraveling for Dexter that could make great TV. I also wouldn't be surprised if something happens that put's Quinn back on the Kyle Butler case.

    I guess Dexter just killed Liddy who was more or less innocent. The big difference is what you had posted previously, Dexter was in his kill, dismember, dump mode when he was looking for Quinn. Prado's brother and the guy at the boathouse were accidents, this one seemed thought out. Although you do have a point in that we don't know what he was going to do with Quinn.
     
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    Oh wow, I didn't even think about Deb shooting Lumen. I was kinda thinking she discovers it all, but too late to save Lumen (as in Jordan kills her to spite Dexter). Then, because she's all wet for the "vigilante's" boyfriend/her own brother, once she discovers it's actually Dexter, they agree to pin it on the creepy, victim zero skeleton girl Jordan killed last episode, leaving Dexter to deal with the death of two women he loved within the last year or so. Not sure what will happen with Quinn though. As usual, I'm expecting to be both totally wrong and blown away. Hurry up, Sunday.
     
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    I'm going to spoiler this because some people might not want to know, but this news came out the other day and it's probably worth knowing. Note that it has nothing to do with this season or the plot...

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blogs/live-feed/official-dexter-renewed-sixth-season-56610
     
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    Perhaps I haven't been paying close enough attention this season, but does anyone remember the scene from 1:52 of the season 5 trailer ever happening?

     
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    Thought that was a fitting conclusion that left fewer loose ends than I'd imagined there would be. I dig how they handled Quinn, and though I saw the "confrontation" with Deb playing out like that from a mile away, it was executed very well. Bravo, Jennifer Carpenter. I still wonder if/how Quinn & the totaled Grand Am will play a role next season. We got to see a lot of different emotions from Dexter this season, and of course Hall continues to blow away the rest of the cast. The final episode reminded me a lot of the finale from Season One, but that's not really a bad thing.
     
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    Thought this season, and the finale especially were kinda weak. That's ok though cause I've been considering this season just a build up to the sixth (and hopefully final) season where everything hits the fan and Dexter gets caught (please writers, have the balls to do this).
     
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    Did anyone catch the arrangement of the score at the end during Dexter's monologue about connections? It was a cross between the "blood theme" (end credits) and the "sweet dreams" theme. I had a sneaking suspicion of where I heard a similar arrangement before and popped in the Season 3 Blu-Rays. The cue was used when Dexter was reflecting on killing Prado.

    Maybe I'm just over-observant and reading too much into this, but I feel that it could be a hint for next season.
     
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    Yes. That line ended up being why Dexter wasn't a suspect in Rita's murder. He and the rest of the department were at the Mitchells' house when she was killed.

    I thought that the finale was kind of flat, but that was to be expected after how the fourth season ended. As ready as I am for the show to end, I'm still very interested in where they'll go from here.
     
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    I agree. I can't put my finger on it but something was definitely lacking from that last episode. The way they had deb gush about the vigilantes nobody was surprised by her act of letting them go.

    One thing that is bothering me is would a Lt. really have her own blood specialist run DNA on a cop in his own unit who is suspected of murder? Wouldn't she assume they would look after each other? Regardless of how much they dislike each other that common respect is very prevalent in police units. I know it's a TV show and they ask you to suspend belief in many incidences but that one bothers me. That and how incredibly hot Masuka's date was, she had to be a pro.

    Also I've had enough of the (Dexter in handcuffed, tied up, and easily escapes routine) how many times can this happen? It's like the old secret agent movies when they tie up the hero disclose their plan and then the hero escapes. I don't think they wrote Lumen out very well either, although I feel she made up for it with excellent acting, they both did. I love the show but it's the Dexter character that is the driving force of everything. Hall created something so unique that we would probably tune in to watch him kill people without any story or plot behind it.

    Lastly, anyone who is sticking to this season is as good as last season is smoking crack. I enjoyed it, I felt it was a must watch television show but it does not compare to the intensity Lithgow and Hall were able to create last season.

    I was kind of hoping for some more dialogue between Quinn and Dexter, something to really put out in the open what they both did.

    With no Sons Of Anarchy or Dexter what should I watch? That shameless show was freakin awful, I'm pretty lost. I will have to invest a lot in the Spartacus prequel.
     
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    Jesus, why are you all so keen for the show to end? Why not 7 seasons or 8. Not every episode has to be a Shakespearian work of art. I am perfectly happy watching Michael Hall work his acting magic for another 2 seasons. I can't imagine another actor in that roll and he consistently hits home run after home run, and I am not ready to get off the ride that the writers take us on with this show any time soon.

    I was as disappointed for Dexter as he was when Lumen said she had to leave. I would have liked to have seen his relationship with her played out, but it makes sense that she would not want to kill anymore now that Jordan is gone. Even though the finale was, indeed a bit flat, I still enjoyed the way the writers tied it all up and left us ready for something fresh.
     
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    Who said they wanted the show to end? I didn't see that in any post. I think people were expecting more from a season finale that's all, I'm glad the show will continue, not sure where you got that impression.
     
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    I didn't really feel satisfied with the ending. They tied up all the loose ends, which will be nice for starting fresh next season (I like that I have no idea where it's going), but they tied them up too quickly and simply. I thought Jordan Chase had so much potential to be as epic of a villain as Trinity and The Ice Truck Killer, but I still don't really feel like I understood him as a person or his motivations as a criminal. I don't know why these guys did what they did, or why Jordan orchestrated all of it, or why he never participated, or what his weird relationship with Emily was, or why he's so crazy and twisted. I can handle that when it's one of the side plot murderers, but for the main villain I'm upset that I'm still left with all these questions about him, especially when there were so many taunts throughout the season that there's a really good story there.

    I wasn't surprised that Deb let them go, and I wasn't particularly annoyed that that's how it was resolved because they set it up so nicely, but I really am confused as to why her finding their camp equals her solving the case and now they're brushing off the entire case and claiming it's solved and not looking into his (or any of the other guys') disappearance any more.

    The Quinn things was the most anticlimatic plot point ever. There was so much tension and then nothing comes of it. I didn't even catch how Dexter got him off the hook for it because it was thrown out there so quickly, and I don't see how that closes the case either when it's the murder of a cop who was hunting down someone else. Or why they would stop questioning him just because he didn't do it when he so obviously knows something serious about the case. Or why Dexter let him off if he knew Quinn was about to cause a serious investigation into him.

    Maybe all these questions will be answered next season...but it kind of felt like they were trying to wrap everything up for good. As much as I'd like to know the answers, I'm hoping that's not their plan because it would get tiring.

    The whole season had problematic pacing in general. The buildup was really slow, so if they had started introducing all these points earlier in the season it would've been more attention-grabbing, and they would've had the time to resolve them all satisfactorily. Or, at least more satisfactorily than that. As is, it kind of left a weird aftertaste.

    (Also, I like how they threw in the nod to Battista and LaGuerta in the last scene as if anyone had been caring about them all season.)
     
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    You don't know why Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy or the Son of Sam killed people. They just did because they're disturbed individuals. The fact that he didn't participate, etc. etc. were just vehicles to portray how he relished control over people. I think the writers did an admirable job of that. Seeing Jordan rant while he was on the table showed me enough of his motivations.


    Dexter ran the blood work and fudged a different DNA match (probably Quinn's own DNA). He let Quinn off the hook because Quinn didn't spill the beans to Deb about his late night boat expeditions with Lumen. Quid Pro Quo. Plus, I'm assuming Quinn still has the photos in case he ever needs some leverage. I don't know about you, but I'm pretty sure I couldn't explain why I've got a shitload of luggage for a boat trip that lasted only a night.
     
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    This isn't true at all. Aside from having the obvious sociopath tendencies as well as being horribly disturbed there is a lot of information on those individuals and why they chose who they did. Bundy had a very abusive mother and was also embarrassed about being a necrophiliac. He had asked real live girlfriends to "play dead" while having sex. Gacy had a very abusive as well as alcoholic father who tormented him his entire life. Aside from hating himself and his own homosexuality Gacy was also molested as a young boy. Son of Sam of course killed people because his dog told him too.

    Obviously there are thousands of people who experience similar situations and do not turn out to be serial killers, clearly they had something "off" at birth and then the abuse transformed them into monsters. Audrey Monroe made great points about this in relevance to Dexter. Almost every foe he has had has been explained, (Trinity seeing his sister die, Ice Truck was obvious and we actually saw Prado's demon being born) however Chase was a total mystery. He went to camp and discovered that he liked to orchestrate gang rape? Her post actually really made me wonder what the whole dynamic between Jordan and Emily was as well, how she could be a victim for that long is crazy. I would enjoy an explanation.

    It's almost like they could have used two episodes to firm that season up, I had mentioned before that I wanted a little more back and forth between Quinn and Dexter.

    I still love the show and can't wait until next year but I did think they left some things unfinished. I'm glad there was no cliff hanger though, at least the stage is set for the next chapter in Dexter's life.
     
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    Definitely. About twenty minutes in, I thought that I had lost track about this being the season finale because I was so sure they needed another episode to wrap things up at the pace it was going.
     
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    Im with Audreymonroe on this one as well. I think there is a point where the "gawd do you need everything explained to you?!?!" argument is applicable and where it's not. I think the writers left out some details that strain the credibility of how the rest of the story was played out. Maybe they will set up Quinn as more of a Doakes character next season but the slipshod way they got him off immediately seemed pretty poor even for this show. The other thing they left wide open was Deb letting the two go. Im guessing that along with Quinns murder case involving RoboCop, they might settle it really fast in the first episode or two of next season. Like Dexter's connection to Trinity's family they might bridge plot points but will totally be ignored afterward.

    I wasn't really satisfied with Deb letting them go. Probably the biggest let down of the episode for me. Instead of doing something daring they decided everything needed to wrap everything up with a bow for Harrison's birthday party. Leguerta's sudden change into a buddy buddy female crime fighter with Deb was kind of weird as well.*

    I actually liked the final scene with Lumen and Dexter. That fact that she was done with murdering makes sense. Is it a home run reason to leave? No. But I don't think it's a strike out. A nice solid double. Plus the green plate shot before Dexter smashed it was pretty well executed. Hall did really well in that scene.


    *I need to watch the episode again but didn't one of the brothers escape the night club shot out? I could have sworn one did and the other one was shot in the head taking a hostage.