The meek DID inherit the earth. When was the last time a comedy film was produced? How many times have you heard the line “You could never release THAT with how things are now!” These people are now in charge for some reason, and they just fucking ruined EVERYTHING.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/28/health/us-coronavirus-monday/index.html I've read in a few places that we may be in for another shutdown.
There's no political will for another shutdown. Especially given that we're in the phase where the severity of the outbreak directly correlates to the local population's refusal to do anything to prevent the spread of the disease.
Unlikely. The spread driven by large numbers of people congregating together indoors is valid in places where it's miserably hot right now, and a few of those are on that list: MS, AL, LA. Wyoming and Arkansas are concerning, but not as much. All these places have relatively low population densities, so the outbreaks are likely to be at community or county level. This means a state-wide lockdown isn't going to happen (for a lot of reasons, political butt-fuckery being one of them), and no county-level official is going to commit seppuku by imposing a lockdown. The most realistic threat would be a place like NOLA, Birmingham or Baton Rouge where they are simply overrun, but again that lockdown would stop at the county/parrish border, and would be absurdly easy to bypass. At this point, if there's an outbreak that gets out of hand, the response needs to be "get fucking vaccinated." A respirator isn't a valid alternative to a shot in the arm, and while Delta is worse, there's little sympathy for folks who refuse the obvious solution to this nightmare.
Trust me when I say 1/6 will not be repeated. We may have a version of Tard Tianamen Square littered with corpses of people who don't listen well, but...the folks in charge ain't having it.
I quarantined and wore a mask for 15 months with the expected trade-off of a vaccine being developed. I’m now vaccinated and I wouldn’t comply with another lockdown. The people who refuse to get vaccinated can get fucked as far as I’m concerned.
this. I'm still dealing with some issues from my second shot (fatigue mainly). I went through everything necessary to make sure I was safe for myself and the rest of society. Covid itself nearly killed me, and I still got the fauci ouchie earlier than absolutely necessary because I'm not a complete asshole. There is literally no excuse not to get vaccinated at this point -- places are EVERYWHERE!! No appointment needed!! Hell, I passed two of them just in the orlando airport. If you get it and you aren't vaccinated at this point? You're on your own, get fucked.
I agree but if I catch it again and I'm out of work four months or more again, I'm going to kill someone.
The fact that we have the supply and distribution to be fully vaccinated by now, but are only hovering ~45%, is a national embarrassment that is the fault of no one but us as a people.
It's not just the US. Seems to be global. (And, also, this shows 54% not 45%, but that's still not great.) https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/vaccination-rollout-and-access/ But, people are gonna people. People don't wear seatbelts, don't wear condoms, don't get checked for prostate cancer, cross lines that say "closed for construction," etc. It's not just the vaccine and it's not just the US. People are dumb (and selfish) and have a history of showing it. Why would you expect this to be any different?
I don't think anyone else can match our supply and distribution yet. Canadian board members are still waiting on shot availability while we've had it for months. Although I'm sure there will be plenty of other countries to rag on when the dust finally settles.
My point was the distribution doesn't matter. For instance, what percentage of cars in the US have seatbelts? 98%? So they've been distributed to basically every person who rides in a car. And, yet, according to the NHTSA,
Trust is the issue. No amount of science, data or logic can restore trust. Some people seem convinced that thousands of scientists, doctors, and front-line healthcare staff benefit somehow by lying to them, and rely on regurgitated misinformation. That behavior is hard to shake. My ex, who has a pair of master's and a Ph.D in traditional Chinese medicine, won't get it. She thinks it will change her DNA, like a plot device in a Goddamned ninja turtle cartoon. What is really frustrating is how this may poison the well for future MRNA vaccines against shit like herpes, AIDS, malaria, etc. This, for me, is the hardest part to reckon with. I trust people to do their fucking jobs, and can't fathom people who believe someone who dedicates their life to healthcare or service would rather lie to them, for no discernible benefit whatsoever.
A bit unrelated, but given that humans don't naturally generate antibodies to herpes or HIV in response to exposure (hence their permanent infection status) what is the proposed mechanism for an mRNA vaccine against those? There doesn't seem to be anything equivalent to the spike protein that such a vaccine could build as a way to train the immune system.
Not that kind of nerd, but I read (somefucking where, my history is unhelpful) there are about 3 dozen other MRNA based vaccines in development right now, none of them targeting COVID. No idea what the mechanism is, but I think the advantage is that the MRNA is easy to develop, pilot and test, so they can iterate a lot faster than other forms. If I dig the article(s) up, I'll post them. None of this was work-related.