No, science. We've now surpassed the US when it comes to vaccinations. The most recent science is saying that if you wait longer than the initial "2 weeks" the efficacy improves dramatically. The latest Pfizer recommendations are what we're going with, to the point that even with supply, we're rescheduling second doses to be later than initially scheduled.
Just scheduled my first vaccine for early next week. If I had any issues with it I wanted it to be after my son’s birthday. can’t wait until I get better cell reception
Didn't you already get it a ways back? Anyway, Jungle Julia and I get our second dose in about an hour. I'll let y'all know if we become good-autistic or social-freak autistic.
I haven't noticed any lasting change since getting the vaccine. Every few days I drop a box of toothpicks just to check, though.
Definitely let us know how that goes, from almost everything I've read/heard, people who had Covid get hit much harder with the vaccine. Just remembering when I had it and the months of feeling bad afterwards is enough to keep me away from getting stuck.
already got covid, yes. But not the shot. Immunities from the shot are stronger than natural immunities is my understanding, just had to wait until my long covid was under control as far as breathing issues and the like. 4 months out from getting covid, I still have some issues with it, but at this point the benefits of the shot, especially as far as the decreased likelihood of passing covid once I’m fully vaccinated, greatly outweigh the potential negatives including the rough time I’ve been told to expect since I already have some level of immunity
my thinking is that I’ve seen the worst, and I can deal with it again if I have to. But I can’t deal with potentially giving it to someone else. While I can certainly suggest to others to get the shot, I can’t make them, and if I can do some little bit to help the cause and prevent others from going through what I went through, then it’s worth it. plus, I’ve always wanted to glow under black lights
I think the bigger issue is that natural immunities are more variable and less predictable than what is delivered by the vaccine. So maybe you have 85% immunity or whatever the average is for contracting COVID-19, or maybe not, your standard deviation is much higher, and there are more unknowns around variants. It's likely that the vaccine immunity is greater than the natural immunity (from what I've read), but the immune response is at least very predictable with the shot so you end up within a well known range.
what’s sad is that with it being like 95 effective, you still basically have one in twenty people who get covid again even with the shot. And that small percentage, the media will latch onto and make it seem like a bigger deal than it is. “yeah but I’m not gonna take it cause we don’t know! My neighbor’s brother got it again!”
The important info out if that is that if you’re vaccinated and then get it, it’s hits you way less than if you weren’t vaccinated. I’m pretty sure that the stats are still zero deaths for those who are vaccinated and get it, and the treatment is way less invasive.
of the doctors I know personally — immediate family or friends — no one is remotely scared about this for people who get it post-vaccination. Some are almost flippant, some (I think the smart ones) are still cautiously optimistic. No one is concerned though.
Yup. The media absolutely sucks at dealing with anything science-related. Partly because the public sucks at consuming anything that's more than a 30-second sound bite, and fiction is way easier to compress into sound bites due to it not being constrained by, you know, reality and stuff. People take changing information as being indicative that scientists were wrong, rather than it being how learning and the scientific method operate - better information is a success, not a failure. They look at the 5% failure of the published data and fail to realize that virtually every treatment, inoculation and medication - or frankly anything else they ever had - in their life has a failure rate, they just didn't bother to read the literature. It's really sad.
There's been a few vaccinated people get it here in Vegas that passed away. I saw a news story on it awhile back, there were also twenty odd vaccinated that needed hospitalization when they caught it. EDIT: Here's the story: COVID-19 DEATHS: 2 fully vaccinated people in Clark County have died
A good read regarding what WHO and the CDC got wrong about Covid spread early on. https://www.wired.com/story/the-teeny-tiny-scientific-screwup-that-helped-covid-kill/
The challenge with folks getting covid after being fully vaccinated is it's damned near impossible to eliminate all the possibilities of why they were susceptible: -were they bullshitting about being vaccinated? -was their vaccine properly stored and administered? -did they contract a new, vaccine-resistant strain? -did they take the appropriate 2 weeks for immunity to take effect? -were they carrying it when they were given a vaccine dose? The HHS folks are struggling with each case of this, because they (naturally) want to launch a full-scale investigation into each finding, as it could be very important to fixing issues with the system, the shot, etc. but they do not want to publicize or disincentivize folks from getting the vaccine. From inside the bubble, I'm working on the economic side of the recovery, and.....sigh. No one really knows shit, and the assumptions that most of our econometrics rely on have some challenges during a global pandemic. There are a LOT of fears going around, from labor and supply shortages to inflation to several markets crashing. Generally speaking, most folks who were not economically sensitive (poor, early career, or unstable career) saved a LOT of money, and will spend it without too much concern that whatever they are buying is now more expensive. Depending on how much of that savings gets liquidated and on what will determine how effective the economic recovery will be. If shit with key markets (stock, housing, financial and commodities) starts getting rocky, we'll see consumer confidence tank, and that will make for a bad, bad time.