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But Seriously...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Juice, Jun 19, 2015.

  1. Nettdata

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    THEY ALL FALL OUT OF THE SKY AND EVERYONE DIES.

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  2. Juice

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    I dont get the controversy then. The FAA said they hadnt seen any evidence that warranted grounding the aircraft. They then received new data, passed it up to the administration. Trump orders the grounding based on those reports. He talks to the Boeing CEO, who agrees. Where is the dissent coming from?

    I get that there is serious financial motivations that Airbus has a ton of power in Europe, particularly the UK. Ironically Airbus's incoming orders fell way short of expectations of reports from yesterday. Short-sellers are going to be crushing them if they havent started already.
     
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    This really sounds like somebody should have thought of this or caught it in testing. After the Toyota accelerator problem you would think anyone designing vehicle software would make a point of making sure the operator controls don't get fucked by the software.
     
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    49 dead so far in the New Zealand white supremacist terror attack. He live streamed it in first person shooter style video. Something I had known was just a matter of time for a big event like this. New standard I’m sure every nut job will imitate.
     
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    His manifesto is very obviously meant to be inflammatory. Wants to start a race war. Hates Trump. Loves Trump. Video games trained him for it. Hates Jews.
     
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    Yep, agreed, which is what they recognized earlier and have been working on fixing. But taken on its own it was not enough to warrant emergency action... just official warnings to airlines to be sure to train up your pilots on how to detect this and handle it while they work on a new revision as a high priority. (Because it does take many minutes for this to happen, it's not a sudden onset condition).

    But then it seems like some airlines didn't heed the Boeing warnings, and shit happened, and it became, almost literally, "the sky is falling".

    Typical in these kinds of conditions, it's not just a single thing that causes problems, it's the aggregate of them.

    That being said, I don't think that the blame should be totally on Boeing... the airlines have to do their part with the proper training as well.
     
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    The silver lining is that, with the video, the authorities MIGHT be able to take that and use it to improve their training and strategies for these things going forward.
     
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    I'm expecting a bunch of retaliatory bullshit here in Aus in the near future.

    This horrific event has broken my heart because NZ was the one place I thought wouldn't see this kind of act. The gun laws have always been fairly solid and Kiwi's as a whole are mostly responsible, relaxed and laid back. This has irrevocably changed NZ, I just hope we don't lose the idealism and compassion that we hold dear as a country because of the foul acts of a few.
     
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    The fucker was evil in its purest form, and I wouldn't think for a second that any law of man or religion could have prevented what he did.

    I watched the video and was particularly struck by two things: 1) fairly quickly, the asshole was charged by someone. The hero was murdered in the process, but he made a damn good attempt to stop the shooting. I'm glad there was video in that regard, because otherwise we might not have known about that man's actions. I hope everyone learns his name. 2) Where the fuck were the exits? The shooter went into basically a big room after shooting his way down a hallway, and in that room everyone was cowered in corners. There wasn't any quick way for them to escape. Let's even say this was a fire and not a shooting -- seriously, what the fuck?!?

    Hopefully the police don't get blamed for their response, time. It was over and done with way too fast.
     
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    His name is Brenton Tarrant and had moved from Aus to NZ two years ago after spending a few years travelling Europe and Asia.
     
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    I know. I prefer not to mention them by name. I wish the media wouldn't either. Maybe if instead of saying "so and so shot up a mosque" they referred to them as "bitchtits McCocksucker" "Inmate No.6913" or "Future Shanking Victim" there would be a lot less copycat crimes.
     
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    Agreed. I was pleasantly surprised to see our local media (who spent 10-15 minutes on the story) didn't mention his name once.
     
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    Canadian media has done that a few times. it is nice to see.
     
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    A lot of US media is also starting to blur his face in articles and on TV. I was caught so off guard that initially I thought it was because he had gotten shot in the head or something gory. Never occurred to me they'd actually do the right thing and not show it because, you know, morals.