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Breaking Bad: Season 5

Discussion in 'TV Shows' started by Juice, Jul 15, 2012.

  1. Kerbunked

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    You completely missed the point of this phone call. Of course he knew police were there (that's why he destroyed his phone afterwards). He'd also already given the baby to the firemen.

    He called to make sure that Skylar didn't take any heat for any of his wrongdoings. Pay attention to everything he says, he screams at her for getting in his way, telling him to stop, saying it was wrong, that he'd been threatening her and this was what happens. He put everything on himself so she gets off scott free. That's why he was crying while saying those horrible things to her and she understood what he was doing too. That's why her last "I'm sorry" was heartfelt.

    Also, on a completely different subject, I read an incredibly fascinating theory about comparisons to Hank and Captain Ahab from Moby Dick. Here's the text:

    "In the classic novel Moby Dick, Captain Ahab is long-obsessed with catching the notorious white whale. At one point in his hunt, he loses a leg to the beast. In the end, Ahab finally catches Moby Dick, striking him with a harpoon. But catching the whale results in Ahab's death. The whale swims away. In the classic TV series Breaking Bad, Agent Hank Schrader is long-obsessed with catching the notorious drug lord Heisenberg. At one point in his investigation, Hank is badly injured, resulting in a permanent limp. In the end, Hank finally catches Heisenberg, shackling him with handcuffs. But catching him results in Hank's death. Heisenberg runs away."
     
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    That's what I was thinking. Maybe he runs into some blue over in NH and figures there's only one place in the world it could come from. So 1) the Aryans lied to him and 2) that rat bastard Jesse, who cost him everything by getting Hank involved and then killed, is still alive.
     
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    I've got to think that Walt's first assumption is going to be that Jesse agreed to cook in order to save his own skin, and that the Nazis double crossed Walt by accepting the offer.
     
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    This next episode is going to bring us to to the present. Skylar, Walt Jr. and the baby are left with only the car wash and Walt is gone for good. Walt is going to go after the Aryans and will kill them. Jesse is going to kill Walt in the climax of the series. Jesse takes the last barrel or at that point all the barrels combined since the Aryans are dead and takes what he wants and goes and lives happily ever after with Brock and his mother.

    Saul lives to keep doing his thing. Marie just has to live with no family as her relationship with Skylar is broken and Hank is dead. Whether she kills herself or not doesn't matter. Her story is done. Lydia is just left without any meth as all the cooks are done.

    I'm sure every bit of this is wrong but it's the path I can see happening. I have no idea how it will happen and love that I'm probably wrong and will be pleasantly surprised. Even if I am right, it will be for the wrong reasons and I will still be surprised.
     
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    I thought that might be the case, but I still don't see why he needed to do it. Can't the police question Skyler now? If Walt hadn't called then it would have just been a domestic dispute. There is also no evidence that everything is Walt's fault. It's still possible that there will be evidence uncovered that implicates Skyler.
     
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    The cops still have Marie's testimony, somewhat backed up by the false confession DVD (itself debunked by Walt's last phonecall). And did anyone else catch Jesse's plea for mercy, where he mentions having told them where "the tape" was? As in, the tape of Walt as he speeded towards his money? As in, the only real evidence Hank ever secured?
     
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    I assumed it was the taped confession of Jesse that Hank made. Not that it had concrete evidence on it (like hey had mentioned after making it) but it surely would point investigators in the right directions. Honestly the car wash is the biggest piece of evidence that really puts Skylar in the hot seat. The BS tale of casino winnings would never stand up to close scrutiny and forensic accountants would probably tear down here money laundering pretty fast. Let alone if they talked to Beneke. I'd assume she'd have to turn states witness to avoid prosecution.
     
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    You're right, I totally forgot about Jesse's own tape. Still have to believe Hank would have a recording of Walt tho, he was too smart a cop to let that go to waste. Not that it would do anyone any good; you can hardly blackmail a man who's already burned himself.

    This is awesome:
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    "Hey guys is it safe to come out yet? Guys?"
     

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    I've been wondering about the ricin for a few weeks. He has to get close in order to use it and who is left that would let him get that close? The M-60 is probably to fend off federal agents and/or Neo-Nazis, but I feel like the ricin is going to be where the real excitement is.
     
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    This is all true, but with the phone call Walt Jr. made (he is crazy and attacking my mom) along with what Walt said, Skyler can always claim she was forced to run the carwash and launder his money against her will by her clearly crazy husband. He basically admitted to killing Hank, so why wouldn't the Walt on that call have killed Skyler if she didn't do what he wanted.

    That call basically got Skyler off the hook for all of it.
     
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    Yeah, she could claim intimidation and blackmail from Walt.
     
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    At this point it's gotta be Lydia. She would be the final loose end to tie up. It kind of a bummer that the Madrigal storyline didn't go as far as it could have. I feel like they only scratched the surface with the potential.
     
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    It sounds like the ricin was just an excuse for Walt to go home (based on the interviews). I wouldn't expect it to play into the ending.
     
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    I'm going to have to disagree. I feel like this is the kind of show that never does ANYTHING for no reason. It feels like everything they do is for a reason, there is a lot of foreshadowing, and a lot of symbolism in their shots. I just don't see any way the Ricin doesn't come back into play.

    Personally, I think Walt will use the Ricin on himself when it is all said and done. The Ricin is Walt's out; its his way of going out on his own terms, rather than letting cancer or something else kill him. This has been all about a powerless guy (Walt) taking power back, and building it up and cultivating that power. Once it is all gone, the only power he'll have left is over his own life and death, which is what he will use the ricin for. He won't let cancer kill him. He won't let Todd or his crazy ass family kill him. He'll kill himself.
     
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    Well Lydia and her tea are obviously for something. What for, if not ricin sweetener?
     
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    Yeah, but do you think skittish ass Lydia would let Walt anywhere near her? Unless somehow he sneaks it in like with Brock.
     
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    I don't see Walt as the type of guy to kill himself. He will either go out in a blaze of glory and get killed that way or by Jessie's hand. I'm betting the ricin is for someone else, and Lydia is the best bet but you never know. There is no way she's getting out of this without some damage. No one is getting away with anything, and she's one of the sleaziest characters on the show.
     
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    He could possibly use to contaminate a batch of Blue Sky that Lydia distributes. And as soon as the word gets out in the US and Europe that Blue Sky was poisoned and killed people, the market for it would grind to a halt immediately. So Lydia's ultimate fate might be left off-screen or up to the viewers imagination and at the hands of her "partners in the Czech Republic."

    The M60 is for the Aryans. That would complete the full cycle for him turning into Gus. Keep in mind, Gus went back into enemy territory to destroy the opposition in the cartel. If Walt's actions really mirror Gus', its the next logical step.