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Academy Awards 2020

Discussion in 'Pop Culture Board' started by Rush-O-Matic, Jan 20, 2020.

  1. Rush-O-Matic

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    Since no one has posted these yet, and the awards show will be earlier this year. I just have to watch Marriage Story, and I will have seen all the Best Picture nominees prior to the ceremony. That's the first time I've done that since they expanded the field, and even before that, it had been awhile. A lot of the shorts are available (legally) online, which is nice. A lot of times, those shorts only work as a short, but I particularly liked "The Neighbors' Window" this year, and felt like it could have been expanded to a feature length.

    Brad Pitt has already won some things, and his speech at the SAG awards was great. I hope he wins the Oscar, because his speech would be great. However, it will probably be Joe Pesci.

    Best Picture:

    “Ford v Ferrari”
    “The Irishman”
    “Jojo Rabbit”
    “Joker”
    “Little Women”
    “Marriage Story”
    “1917”
    “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”
    “Parasite”

    Lead Actor:
    Antonio Banderas, “Pain and Glory”
    Leonardo DiCaprio, “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”
    Adam Driver, “Marriage Story”
    Joaquin Phoenix, “Joker”
    Jonathan Pryce, “The Two Popes”

    Lead Actress:
    Cynthia Erivo, “Harriet”
    Scarlett Johansson, “Marriage Story”
    Saoirse Ronan, “Little Women”
    Charlize Theron, “Bombshell”
    Renee Zellweger, “Judy”

    Supporting Actor:
    Tom Hanks, “A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood”
    Anthony Hopkins, “The Two Popes”
    Al Pacino, “The Irishman”
    Joe Pesci, “The Irishman”
    Brad Pitt, “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”

    Supporting Actress:
    Kathy Bates, “Richard Jewell”
    Laura Dern, “Marriage Story”
    Scarlett Johansson, “Jojo Rabbit”
    Florence Pugh, “Little Women”
    Margot Robbie, “Bombshell”

    Director:
    Martin Scorsese, “The Irishman”
    Todd Phillips, “Joker”
    Sam Mendes, “1917”
    Quentin Tarantino, “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”
    Bong Joon Ho, “Parasite”

    Animated Feature:
    “How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World,” Dean DeBlois
    “I Lost My Body,” Jeremy Clapin
    “Klaus,” Sergio Pablos
    “Missing Link,” Chris Butler
    “Toy Story 4,” Josh Cooley

    Animated Short:
    “Dcera,” Daria Kashcheeva
    “Hair Love,” Matthew A. Cherry
    “Kitbull,” Rosana Sullivan
    “Memorable,” Bruno Collet
    “Sister,” Siqi Song

    Adapted Screenplay:

    “The Irishman,” Steven Zaillian
    “Jojo Rabbit,” Taika Waititi
    “Joker,” Todd Phillips, Scott Silver
    “Little Women,” Greta Gerwig
    “The Two Popes,” Anthony McCarten

    Original Screenplay:
    “Knives Out,” Rian Johnson
    “Marriage Story,” Noah Baumbach
    “1917,” Sam Mendes and Krysty Wilson-Cairns
    “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood,” Quentin Tarantino
    “Parasite,” Bong Joon-ho, Jin Won Han

    Cinematography:
    “The Irishman,” Rodrigo Prieto
    “Joker,” Lawrence Sher
    “The Lighthouse,” Jarin Blaschke
    “1917,” Roger Deakins
    “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood,” Robert Richardson

    Best Documentary Feature:
    “American Factory,” Julia Rieichert, Steven Bognar
    “The Cave,” Feras Fayyad
    “The Edge of Democracy,” Petra Costa
    “For Sama,” Waad Al-Kateab, Edward Watts
    “Honeyland,” Tamara Kotevska, Ljubo Stefanov

    Best Documentary Short Subject:
    “In the Absence,” Yi Seung-Jun and Gary Byung-Seok Kam
    “Learning to Skateboard in a Warzone,” Carol Dysinger
    “Life Overtakes Me,” Kristine Samuelson and John Haptas
    “St. Louis Superman,” Smriti Mundhra and Sami Khan
    “Walk Run Cha-Cha,” Laura Nix

    Best Live Action Short Film:
    “Brotherhood,” Meryam Joobeur
    “Nefta Football Club,” Yves Piat
    “The Neighbors’ Window,” Marshall Curry
    “Saria,” Bryan Buckley
    “A Sister,” Delphine Girard

    Best International Feature Film:
    “Corpus Christi,” Jan Komasa
    “Honeyland,” Tamara Kotevska, Ljubo Stefanov
    “Les Miserables,” Ladj Ly
    “Pain and Glory,” Pedro Almodovar
    “Parasite,” Bong Joon Ho

    Film Editing:
    “Ford v Ferrari,” Michael McCusker, Andrew Buckland
    “The Irishman,” Thelma Schoonmaker
    “Jojo Rabbit,” Tom Eagles
    “Joker,” Jeff Groth
    “Parasite,” Jinmo Yang

    Sound Editing:
    “Ford v Ferrari,” Don Sylvester
    “Joker,” Alan Robert Murray
    “1917,” Oliver Tarney, Rachel Tate
    “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood,” Wylie Stateman
    “Star Wars: The Rise of SkyWalker,” Matthew Wood, David Acord

    Sound Mixing:
    “Ad Astra”
    “Ford v Ferrari”
    “Joker”
    “1917”
    “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”

    Production Design:
    “The Irishman,” Bob Shaw and Regina Graves
    “Jojo Rabbit,” Ra Vincent and Nora Sopkova
    “1917,” Dennis Gassner and Lee Sandales
    “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood,” Barbara Ling and Nancy Haigh
    “Parasite,” Lee Ha-Jun and Cho Won Woo, Han Ga Ram, and Cho Hee

    Original Score:
    “Joker,” Hildur Guðnadóttir
    “Little Women,” Alexandre Desplat
    “Marriage Story,” Randy Newman
    “1917,” Thomas Newman
    “Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker,” John Williams

    Original Song:
    “I Can’t Let You Throw Yourself Away,” “Toy Story 4”
    “I’m Gonna Love Me Again,” “Rocketman”
    “I’m Standing With You,” “Breakthrough”
    “Into the Unknown,” “Frozen 2”
    “Stand Up,” “Harriet”

    Makeup and Hair:
    “Bombshell”
    “Joker”
    “Judy”
    “Maleficent: Mistress of Evil”
    “1917”

    Costume Design:
    ”The Irishman,” Sandy Powell, Christopher Peterson
    “Jojo Rabbit,” Mayes C. Rubeo
    “Joker,” Mark Bridges
    “Little Women,” Jacqueline Durran
    “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood,” Arianne Phillips

    Visual Effects:
    “Avengers Endgame”
    “The Irishman”
    “1917”
    “The Lion King”
    “Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker”

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    Pitt's speech:
     
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    I saw this when it first came out, but from what I recall, it sure seemed like Pitt had way more screen time than Leo. I can only think of a few times Leo was onscreen without Pitt but quite a bit of the story is just Pitt with no Leo.
     
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    There is no requirement from the Academy. It is based on how the Studio submits the "for your consideration" campaign. They did it to not have Leo and Brad compete against each other. (This was done with Cate Blanchett and Rooney Mara in Carol in 2015, and has been done other times.)

    There are good reasons to not base it on just screen time. Especially since it can go the other way, as well. Anthony Hopkins gave a brilliant and memorable performance in "Silence of the Lambs," but based on his 15 minutes of screen time, it could be considered a supporting role. He won Best Actor for that.
     
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    Willem Defoe was better than anybody nominated in any category for The Lighthouse (at least the cinematography was nominated, so those retards still have eyes). I can’t fucking trust this shit. How is this “the best” when the actual best doesn’t even get considered?

    Parasite is the best movie hands down, deserves to win best picture and best director, so it won’t. 1917 or OUATIH will win best picture and director. I’m okay with that, because I absolutely fucking loved Once Upon A Time In Hollywood.
     
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    I don't know if y'all like watching any of the shorts that are nominated. ShortsTV is making them available later, and a lot of local theatres have them in binge nights leading up to the Awards show. But, a lot of them are available for free or free through an existing streaming platform.

    Like, "Life Overtakes Me" is on Netflix. "Honeyland" is on Hulu, "Hair Love" is on YouTube (the free one), as are a couple of the live action shorts, and the short documentary "In The Absence" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrgpv-JgH9M), which was incredibly maddening, because of so much incompetence. I watched "The Neighbor's Window" on Vimeo (https://vimeo.com/376861194).
     
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    Exactly right on all counts, although technically the Actor's Branch makes the decision on who gets placed in which category (For Your Considerations notwithstanding). There are plenty of examples of actors/actress in major roles winning the "lesser" award, but Hopkins is really the only good example of someone in an arguably supporting role winning the lead category. Joaquin Phoenix has had Best Actor wrapped up for a while, but I don't think Brad Pitt is hiding out in the Supporting category. It's an appropriate classification in this case, and works out perfectly for him because every other actor in the category has an acting Oscar already (Pitt has a producing win). This might be the easiest choice for the Academy in an acting category in a very long time.

    We had a baby this past year, so I haven't been able to even come close to watching most of the nominees because I'm up to my eyeballs in boogers and diaper shit. I'm in no position to make any predictions, but I would suggest that anyone looking for a nice upset bet to place money on Scarlett Johansson in Best Supporting Actress. It's very rare for an actor/actress to be nominated in both categories in one year: it's even rarer for someone to get shut out for both...but even then, the few times it has happened, the nominated actress usually already had a statue to her name (Emma Thompson in 1994, Cate Blanchett in 2008). Julianne Moore got shut out in 2003 but the Academy made it up to her in 2015. Really, the only one who ever hit the mark that has nothing to show for it was Sigourney Weaver in 1989.

    Scarlett Johansson is not only a no-shit movie star that the viewing audience wants to see give an Oscar speech, but there are also her first nominations and there's no guarantee she's ever going to get these kinds of roles again (Weaver and Moore looked like perennials at the time). Some people are pegging Laura Dern as the favorite, but the reactions to Marriage Story appear mixed at best. I haven't seen JoJo Rabbit, but it's gotten surprisingly great buzz for a movie about Nazis. If people like the movie, they probably also liked Scarlett.
     
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    Totally agree. I have picked ScarJo here in my Oscar pools. Dern is great, but I think there are too many male voters who won't like her character, and will be drawn to the softer performance from ScarJo (though Thomasin McKenzie gave a better performance, but I digress)

    I'm pretty happy going into the awards. I've seen all the BP nominees and most of the films of the major other categories. I've also seen a lot of the short films, animated and not, and several of the documentaries. With Netflix and Disney+ it's been easy. (Do yourself a favor and watch Hair Love on Netflix.) Also, The Neighbor's Window is free online at their site. It's not a short, but Klaus (Netflix again) is good. Don't think you can't watch it because the Season is over - it's barely a Christmas movie.
     
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    Who I think will win:

    Best Picture:

    “1917”
    Lead Actor:
    Joaquin Phoenix, “Joker”
    Lead Actress:
    Renee Zellweger, “Judy”
    Supporting Actor:
    Brad Pitt, “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”
    Supporting Actress:
    Scarlett Johansson, “Jojo Rabbit”
    Director:
    Sam Mendes, “1917”
    Animated Feature:
    “Klaus,” Sergio Pablos
    Animated Short:
    “Hair Love,” Matthew A. Cherry
    Adapted Screenplay:
    “Jojo Rabbit,” Taika Waititi
    Original Screenplay:
    “Parasite,” Bong Joon-ho, Jin Won Han
    Cinematography:
    “1917,” Roger Deakins
    Best Documentary Feature:
    “American Factory,” Julia Rieichert, Steven Bognar
    Best Documentary Short Subject:
    “Learning to Skateboard in a Warzone,” Carol Dysinger
    Best Live Action Short Film:
    “The Neighbors’ Window,” Marshall Curry
    Best International Feature Film:
    “Parasite,” Bong Joon Ho
    Film Editing:
    “Ford v Ferrari,” Michael McCusker, Andrew Buckland
    Sound Editing:
    “1917,” Oliver Tarney, Rachel Tate
    Sound Mixing:
    “1917”
    Production Design:
    “1917,” Dennis Gassner and Lee Sandales
    Original Score:
    “Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker,” John Williams
    Original Song:
    “I’m Gonna Love Me Again,” “Rocketman”
    Makeup and Hair:
    “Bombshell”
    Costume Design:
    “Little Women,” Jacqueline Durran
    Visual Effects:
    “1917”
     
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    I can’t believe it. The movie that deserved to win...... won.
     
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    I didn’t watch any of it, but caught the highlights this morning and thought the same thing. They actually gave the Oscar for Best Picture to the actual best picture.

    And Joaquin Phoenix’s speech. That was something else.
     
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    I think they’ve started to realize that people were checking out because of the blatant fixing of the awards.

    The cynic in me says it’s a small PR course correction that won’t last long.

    I was entrenched in the Grammy stuff for a few years and you better believe there’s no voting for that shit. It’s a big negotiation with the players involved. “You let us win this year to promote X album and you can win next year to push Y”

    The betting man in me says Eminem has an album dropping soon. Otherwise, why push a song from 2003? Marketing buzz. Make him more relevant.

    Yeah, I’m a cynic. An old cynic.

    Get the fuck off my lawn.
     
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    I think Parasite is really good, it is clever and unique, the ensemble was terrific, and congrats to them. I look forward to Bong's next movie. But, I thought 1917 was better. I don't think they got robbed or anything, I just don't agree with the statement that the actual best picture won. I saw all the BP nominees this year, and many of the other films, including the documentaries. And, I drove almost two hours just to be able to see Parasite in theatres since it didn't come to my stupid town. But, I still like 1917 overall better.

    It was a mostly fun show and the upsets were fun, too, and I enjoyed listening to Bong gush over Scorsese. I am also grateful that Joaquin Phoenix opened my eyes to the tragedy of us drinking cow's milk, and hopefully the world can come together to eliminate this terrible injustice, finally, after domesticating cows some 10,000 years ago.
     
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    It actually came out three weeks ago. Despite being #2 on the Billboard 200 chart, the only thing I've heard about it was a small blip in social media about the first music video being about the Las Vegas shooting.
     
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    Well there ya go. I’m an Eminem fan and didn’t know it dropped.
     
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    Like clutch said he had one just drop. He is the first artist to have 10 consecutive #1 albums.
     
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    That, and people are also checking out because they don't care what a bunch of spoiled, out of touch actors think about politics.
     
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    After Oprah received her lifetime achievement award for being annoying and the speech that followed, how could anybody risk tuning into an awards show when it’s possible you may have to sit through more of that aggravating, horrendous nonsense?
     
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    I was drinking during the broadcast, but I didn't realize I was that drunk. I dont even remember that.

    Except for the communist bald lady, and whatever Phoenix was talking about, I thought the politics was pretty tame compared to other awards shows. Brad Pitt got in a quick jab, but it was fine.