50 shades of mommy porn bullshit

FTFY.

Most people are full of shit. The ones with the loud opinions even more so.

 

Yeah and now it's all mainstream...

I think the real threat here is the incoming wave of rape hipsters. Bunch of dudes in orange scarves riding stupid old bikes talking about how they've been ignoring safe words since the 90's.

 

I'm sorry, what? Rape hipsters?

 

They liked rape before it was mainstream.

 

Umm, they're called Rapesters now, get with the times. Although I was a Rapester back when they were still Rape Hipsters. They were way better then.

 

This isn't strange at all. Most people (this is, most people who have any imagination) have fantasies that they wouldn't want to happen in real life. I also see no conflict between being a Feminist and liking rough sex. I don't understand how you find this puzzling.

 

Let me clarify that last part, not rough sex, more like power/control sex. Spanking, choking, pulling of the hair, to her she enjoyed it as a loss of power and control. The whole feminist stuff she was talking about always circled around women having power, not losing power to men, etc. I never fully understood it and that's probably what is coming across.

 

I'm just theorizing here because I'm not a hardcore feminist, but there's a difference between voluntarily relinquishing power (sexy time), versus feeling like you don't have any in the first place (rest of the time). The balance of power between the sexual interactions with your partner is a different arena than the balance of power in your workplace or society at large. Giving up control is really sexy for a lot of people but when you don't feel like you have enough of it when it comes to life in general is frustrating.

 

This is pretty much exactly it.

It's really no different than anything else, really. If you're my friend I might let you borrow my car, but if you just take it without permission I'm going to be angry as hell.

(There are some extremist Feminists of the all-het-sex-is-rape belief who probably harbor those types of fantasies, and for them the dissonance no doubt causes them a lot of distress.)

 

I'm really not looking forward to this movie.

I already had 1 female high school student pull that thing out for independent reading in class. I'm sure the movie is going to inspire a few more.

 

I get that now, but I was definitely more in Louie CK's camp when I first came across this. It wasn't like "Hi Parker, I want you to do X, Y, Z because I find controlled situations of losses of control hot."

 

Kinda don't get the amount of hate, here and in the real world, for the book/movie, especially from guys. Through my entire adult life I've always been amazed what girls have not only let, but encouraged me do to them, including things I didn't even particularly want to do. The popularity of the book, even among women who haven't read it, has only expanded this. When it first came out, I was fortunate enough to have a brief fling with a cute 20 year old with one of the biggest racks I've ever buried my face into. She'd had limited sexual experience, and this book had her revved the fuck up. We never did stuff that required a safe word (and the part about ignoring the safe word is obviously fucked up), but there's no chance she would've been as enthusiastic to try things, submissive-wise, had she not read the book. I know this because she said so.

As far as I can tell, if no one's forcing you to read the book, or watch the movie, the only way it's going to affect your life is if a girl you're lucky enough to hook up with gets some ideas, and that seems odd to bitch about.

 

I think another thing is that no one is pretending that this is literature. I like John Grisham books. He is not a great author by any means, but his books are exciting and are a great way to spend a couple of hours. Does the fact that I read Grisham make me less able to appreciate a truly great book? I don't think so.

So, honestly, I don't get the hate either. I put Fifty Shades of Gray in the same category as the Sex Pistols. They were terrible musically, and the band members were all twats, but they were in the right place at the right time and managed to make music that spoke to a large number of people. I don't hate Johnny Rotten or Sid Vicious, and I don't hate E. L. James, either.

 

I don't think people are so much hating on it as analyzing why it is popular and debating whether there will be any repercussions to what it appears to be normalizing. My answer - probably not. I doubt this will influence people to use BDSM irresponsibly anymore than Flowers in the Attic influenced anyone to incest, and hopefully Twilight didn't influence girls to obsessive stalkery behavior. But it is worth talking about it sociologically.

Short answer: of course people are going to hate on stuff that they don't like but other people like. It's the internet.

 

Well, to be fair I'm going to judge a person to a MUCH higher standing for having an interest in BDSM over a person with an interest in incest. Gaaaah. One peaks many folks' curiosities. The other makes us want to throw up into our hands.

 

I'm hating it. Me, pick me.

Your arguments that it's crap but it's harmless also applies to One Direction, Bieber and every autotuned bit of generic dogshit music for tweens. Or about shitty food. I mean if knockoff twinkies and mcdonalds cheese burgers teach kids to love food, what's the harm right? If it gets them to love music and maybe gets them dancing, what's the harm? I'll tell you what the harm is, it's rotting their brain like sugar rots teeth and like twinkies rot colons. It's taking something good, like reading, or music, or kink fucked up perverted sex, and filling the space in people's brains allocated for good stuff, with shit. No matter what the box office take on the last Michael Bay puts his dick in your childhood and makes it explode rendition of Transformers took at the box office, and even if a sliver of those people did go off and watch the old school transformers or read the 80's transformers comics from when the story had a plot, and characters - it was a fucking awful movie and we should all hate it, and the people responsible for both it's creation and it's success - because they probably listen to bieber and jam their assholes full of fake twinkies and they're what's wrong with us as a culture. Cramming our collective brains right to the brim with fucked up dog shit awfulness when we could be listening to good music, eating good food, reading good books, and doing perverted and fucked up shit that isn't rapey, and full of awful stereotypes.

E.L. James, Michael Bay, Tween targeted auto tuned label babies, and their ilk should be stranded on an island locked inside a faraday cage, with the cast and producers of Duck Dynasty and Honey Booboo for the collective good of society. They're a contagion that taints our mind, like intellectual scabies an the trivial secondary benefits that occasionally ooze out of their contamination doesn't begin to offset their crimes against the the species. And we should treat them like we treat hookworm.

 

So you don't like it?

 

We need stupid people or there would be nobody to make French fries or sell live bait. And while we're hovering in soft-kink territory: no more lap dancers.

There has to be a breaking point when society can take getting brain-damaged so much before making a gargantuan intellectual change. And we will have been dead for five decades.