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Elephants and Jackasses...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Nettdata, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. Aetius

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    Not only did they do that in the Congress, the Trump Administration has barred the FBI from cooperating with Minnesota police.
     
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    Totally not a dictatorship.
     
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    Remember when people would tell us it was ridiculous to call these obvious fascists fascist? Better days...
     
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    Since when do we ask the fuckwads in Congress for permission to investigate a shooting that resulted in loss of life?

    I'm not opposed to law enforcement, or even civilians, shooting armed and dangerous people that are, in the moment, acting dangerously. Video I saw, it doesn't look like a justified shooting.
     
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    Also the same folks who absolutely shit themselves over anyone quoting Charlie Kirk's own words, and sent death threats and got people fired for it, are now gleefully mocking a dead mother. However much you hate Republicans, it's not enough.
     
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    ICE agent has been identified

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    Vance said that the shooter has absolute immunity.

    Isn't that... awesome.
     
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    Everyday is “The government doing all the things talk radio told me they were doing in 2009”
     
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    Welcome to qualified immunity. Political corruption since the founding.
     
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    Vance was specifically referencing absolute immunity, not qualified immunity, and claimed that a state cannot bring charges against a federal official. He's wrong on multiple counts, even by the fucked up standards of US law:
    1. Aside from the insane ruling in Trump v United States that made the President immune from prosecution, all other forms of absolute immunity relate to civil liability and not criminal liability.
    2. Rinky dink feds do not get absolute immunity. It is reserved for important folks like legislators, judges, and prosecutors, and only in the course of their legislative, judicial, and prosecutorial duties respectively.
    3. Absolute immunity is a form of sovereign immunity. However, due to the US's dual sovereignty doctrine, Minnesota is a separate sovereign from the United States, and thus the sovereign immunity of the United States does not apply to Minnesota. To claim a federal official is immune from state prosecution would require leaning on the Supremacy Clause, and the most that would give you is a removal of the case to federal court, where they would then have to argue that their actions were federally lawful and germane to their official duties.
     
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    I feel better now, thanks.
     
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    Everything’s okay though because I haven’t personally been shot in the face yet.
     
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    You could always do a seance at Dick Cheney's grave, see if you can stir something up.
     
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    And you don't have pronouns in your bio. *Definitely* don't deserve to be murdered now.
     
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    I steer clear of cemeteries. What with all the feces and such.
     
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    Video from the ICE agent's phone is out (sidenote: was this fucker stupid enough to text video of a murder to some buddies or something? Can't imagine how else video from his phone would leak this quickly). Not a ton new, main things of note:
    1. He walks in front of her car not once, but twice.
    2. She has the wheel cranked hard to the right (away from him) when she moves forward, and is not even looking at him, but rather at the officer trying to yank open her door.
    3. He calls her a "fucking bitch" after shooting her.
    https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3mbz3va3en22e
     
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    “But…but she called me Big Boy, sir.”
     
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    She cranked the wheel to the left, reversed, then cranked the wheel all the way to the right before moving forward. And they're still trying to convince us that this granny-maneuver three-point-turn in the opposite direction of the agent was some kind of ramming attack.
     
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    So was that guy holding his phone AND a gun at the same time?