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The Workout/Exercise thread

Discussion in 'Sports Board' started by Crown Royal, Nov 26, 2009.

  1. Juice

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    Good for you, man. Sounds like a blast. Kayaking takes a ton of time to get good at so I wouldn't sweat it.
     
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    Thanks. I was fascinated and laughing at how completed out of my depth I was. I've been kayaking on the river, and even some lazy ocean harbor kayaking for 25 years or so. I can easily negotiate Class I & II rapids, too. But, man, that racing / distance kayak was a whole different thing.

    I kind of related it to commuter driving . . . and then seeing a NASCAR race in person. Or, playing high school football . . . and then being on the field for an NFL game. It was just a whole 'nother level up.
     
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    Nice work in the race! That sounds like an awesome event. Cycling and especially kayaking have a huge impact just from scaling up the gear. There’s a reason people buy $10k+ bikes to compete, but they definitely aren’t necessary to finish. Anything you’d have approached differently in training or racing in hindsight?
     
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    I knew going in I'd be slower running that some of the younger folks. And, I knew my regular ol' bike would cost me some time. I had trained fairly well, and was ready from an endurance standpoint. Although, it was definitely challenging! I don't think I'd change anything training-wise. I had done all the distances prior to the race, but not all on the same day. And, I had done a mini-triathlon training of each event, but at half the kayak and bike distance. I wanted to know what to expect, how to change gear, etc. 2 days a week for the last month leading up, I'd do two events - bike/run or kayak/run - on that day.

    I was glad I did those, just to be prepared for the sensation. When you're sitting low to the water, still in a kayak for an hour, and then jump on a bike, for the first little bit, it's kind of odd. Same thing when you get off the bike and start running. Although, jelly legs was a bit of a factor there, too. I pedaled pretty hard to try and make up some time, knowing that it was only a 5K run at the end.

    Race-wise, there are several things I'd do different. Obviously, getting a different kayak is one. I'm okay with the bike. I'm 53, and didn't expect to compete with the winners or anything, so not have a fancy touring bike didn't really bother me. I passed several people on much nicer bikes. It took be almost 3 minutes in the transition area from kayak to bike and about 2 minutes from bike to run. I think I could cut that down a good bit. I wore a pair of combo shorts that have compression shorts built in, and I didn't expect to get wet kayaking. (Had a change, just in case.) So, I wore those for all three events, and that worked out fine. I wore river shoes for the kayak, and getting feet dried off and socks on took a little longer than I liked. And, I didn't have clip-in cycling shoes. I just wore my running shoes without a problem.

    Also, we all had timing chips on ankle straps and our race numbers inked on our arms and legs. So, I'm not sure why they gave us race numbers on pin-on running bibs for the run portion. (Most of the teams were relay, so maybe that was why.) Any, I had pre-pinned my bib number on my shirt that I wore for the bike/run. When I took off my life jacket and put on the shirt, I ripped the shit out of the pins. So, that took a minute to fix. I also jumped on my bike when I was ready and got yelled at, because I didn't wait until the exit where the sign said "Mount bikes here." Oops. Rookie mistake.

    I have run 2 marathons and a 6 or 7 half marathons, so I was prepared for hydration and Gu and stuff like that. I got a cramp in one foot during the bike, but other than that, I was okay. That was another shortcoming of the type kayak I had, though. Not only did it take me longer, so I needed more water, but I couldn't coast straight without having a rudder. So, if I stopped paddling for 15 seconds to drink some water, I'd turn sideways and have to regroup. There was more cross current in the lake than I expected. I guess from the boat traffic, or the heat / cool cycle over night. I'm not exactly sure how lake turnover works.

    So, training, I felt about right on. Racing (and proper equipment) there is definitely room for improvement.
     
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    Are you against building one? Chesapeake Light Craft has some beautiful looking performance kayaks. The plans, cost wise, aren't bad, their CNCd kits are pricey. I'm sure there are other plans or kits out there.

    I haven't seen one of their plan sets, but I bet most of them are between one and two sheets of thin marine plywood. I also bet they have stencils you just trace onto the sheets for cutting.

    https://www.clcboats.com/shop/kayak-kits/performance-kayaks/
     
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    Cool! I am not against building one. I could probably get a used one for near the cost of building one myself, but it would definitely be fun to build my own. And, my grandfather was a boat builder (though, I don't think anyone ever referred to him as a shipwright!), so maybe I've got some of his skills in my blood. I will check that out.

    If I report on my adventure this time next year and start with, "I was doing great until my kayak sank!" you'll know how it went.
     
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    Stitch and glue plans would be my preference for a first timer. Definitely much easier than other methods.
     
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    Nah dude... you're just pioneering a new transitional triathalon... from KBR --> SBR
     
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    I built a 17 footer when I was around 16. Absolutely beautiful boats.
     
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    I know it was a long time ago, but you got any pics of it?
     
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    not currently, no. It's 30 yards away hanging from the ceiling, all dusty in my workshop so I'll get them next time I'm out there. I went the CNC kit route. Major learning experience. Took a ton more time than I expected, with the drying/curing/sanding. In hindsight, I was was doing it just to have a touring kayak, I'd go out and buy one. But if I wanted the experience of building one, I'd for sure go with them again. My step-father also built one of their canoes.
     
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    I bet it was a lot cheaper back then. Their cocktail class racer has gone up like 25% since the pandemic arrived and wood went up.
     
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    looks about the same honestly. This is the one I built. They clearly have a ton more options now. But that price for the complete kit looks about right.
     
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    If you're using a hybrid or a mountain bike, I'd look at other bikes, but unless you find yourself doing half or full Ironman's, a road, gravel, or cyclocross bike is more than adequate.
     
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    I am using a mountain bike I got at Walmart about 10 years ago, lol. I'm too cheap to buy a new one, just because I don't ride enough to justify it. I run regularly, and don't cheap out on running shoes, but I probably won't upgrade my bike. My backup bike is a Huffy hybrid, lol. If I were 23 instead of 53, I'd probably upgrade and get a little more serious.

    There is another KBR triathlon near me in 2 1/2 weeks. It's about the same distances, with a bit shorter kayak portion, but it's RBK instead of KBR. That seems weird to do the water at the end. It's also a trail run, instead of road course. But, I looked at the pictures from the previous event AND the recreation area offers to rent kayaks for the event - most of those are ordinary kayaks like I have, and a lot of the bikes are mountain bikes. And, there's another one in north Georgia in mid-October that is shorter distances in each KBR event. Same thing - in the pictures of the previous events, they have a lot of kayaks like I have. I also looked at the results from last year's race, and the pace I did in each event, including the kayak, would put me in the upper third. So, those are a totally different crowd! Those are my people. I might go do that one.
     
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    Oh god...a bike from one of the major manufacturers would be light-years better just from a maintenance standpoint let alone rider comfort, speed, reliability, etc.

    I guarantee you can find a decent used bike for comparable cost that's better in every aspect than a brand new bike from a big box store.