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Sons of Anarchy

Discussion in 'TV Shows' started by Now Slappy, Oct 19, 2009.

  1. Gravitas

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    Yeah, her nose job isn't aging gracefully. I'd still hit it though. The interaction she had with Unser whenever he walked in on her and her lesbian patsy was hilarious though.

    As far as we know John Teller died in a motorcycle accident on the highway and Jax accepts this as the version of events if my memory serves correct. My understanding is that Gemma thinks that it was pretty much a suicide (I think her line was "he let the road take him."), but for some reason I think they have hinted at foul play in some way.

    Whether or not Sutter has gone full Hamlet where John's death was at the hands of Clay is still up in the air. Though he did seem to be leaning that way with the letter that Maureen was reading. I didn't think that the relationship between Clay and Gemma started until after John's death, but that apparently wasn't the case and it makes the dynamic way more fucked up in my opinion.

    Also, I don't know who does the voice of John Teller, but whoever does it does one hell of a job. The voice and the writing is able to carry all the fucking baggage of that character masterfully with very few opportunities to do it.
     
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    In one of the first episodes when Clay had to dig up a body there was reference made at foul play towards John Teller as well.
     
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    I think the two options are that JT either suicided (death by emo and truck) or was murdered by having his bike's back wheel kicked out as he was driving towards a truck. I suspect that Sutter hasn't actually decided which way he's going yet.

    Did anyone else groan out load when Mo shoved that pile of letters into (presumably Jax's) backpack? I was really hoping that Jax's 'I'm through listening to dead men' speech meant that they were going to move away from the emo voice from the grave thing.
     
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    Great episode overall, except the part where Tara had the chance to put a bullet in Salvador's head. It was a clear easy opportunity when he dropped down to grab her. She killed before. This was justified on all levels. She just slashed her throat anyways. Put a god damned bullet in his head and go home.

    I know they need to drag it out to tie the two stories together and have something for the club to do to end the season when they get back to Charming, but it was a little sloppy of the writers and director to allow that to be so obvious of an opening for her.
     
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    Again it wasn't even sloppy just unnecessary. Leave her kidnapped, have her kill both, even have her get killed (highly unlikely) but another fucking cliff hanger??

    C'mon Kurt the show is great, it is full of action and criminal laced drama we don't need a cliff hanger at every freaking turn. They are already all facing jail and still have to kill Jimmy O, was the kidnapping needed? I worry the show could get soap opera-ish if they make it to far fetched. Clearly we have to suspend some belief, it is TV, but it's kind of like the Die Hard four dilemma, despite all the ridiculous shit that happens I just find myself going how can this keep happening to the same guy? I know Jax has tons of enemies but his kid and his pregnant girlfriend get kidnapped within weeks of each other?
     
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    This season has been pretty weak compared to last season, but the last two episodes have brought me right back in.
     
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    I think she looks pretty good for being almost fifty years old.
    What the fuck? I knew she was a cold blooded bitch, but killing her lover? And then to confirm Gemma's story afterwards? Wow. It fits and the person taking statement bought it hook, line and sinker.

    I did not expect Jax to kill Salazar until he ratted on Hale though. I figured they would get to him in prison.

    Tig's bullshit is over a dog? Fuck me.
     
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    Alright if Tig and blond guy from the Shield have been fighting over a dog then SOA has some explaining to do.

    Simply write a part in the next show when Tara goes" what is it with those two?" and fucking explain!

    I have two dogs and love them both. So unless that guy killed they have some explaining to do.
     
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    Really? You can't just let it be a little joke the show throws in there? I'm guessing that the whole thing was written for Kim Coates. He didn't like the more gruesome aspect to Tig, but because he fits the part so well, Sutter acquiesced and added some humour to the character (this is what I gleamed from the interviews and commentary on the first season DVD). It doesn't even depart from the character that much.
     
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    Honestly? No I think it will annoy me. I love the show so it's not going to make me stop watching but it will bother me. Tig loves his club, SOA is his life. He know's how important it is to increase numbers and he can't find it in his heart to patch a proven guy over because of a dog?

    Now we have to find out the whole story of course. Remember Kozik (sp) said "I loved her too." So if he just had her put down or something it will bother me.

    I see your point, I just feel that they may have drug this on too far if he really did have Tig's dog put to sleep.
     
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    Honestly, I would say that that's EXACTLY the kind of thing the Tig character would never forgive. Also - the outlaw biker thing is the dominant form of organized crime in Australia - having done a lot of drugs and been involved in a lot of music promotion, I got to know a lot of bike club guys - and it would be entirely plausible for my friends from that circle to never forgive someone for a dog. Those guys respect dogs far more then they respect women.

    How many of those guys can you see having a dog put to sleep, rather than going the Old Yeller route? Or getting high and doing something retarded? Accidentally running over the mutt on a bike or something? Callous stupidity is kind of a theme in the show.
     
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    All great points.

    I guess I just picture Clay grabbing Tig and saying "it's a fucking dog for god's sake!!" It doesn't even get brought up at the meetings.

    Maybe Kozik ran over it with his bike.

    It also seems odd because Kozik was kind of arrogant to Tig in the beginning, if I killed a guys dog I would feel terrible I doubt I would smirk at the dude.


    On another note I would let Tig's girl Missy lick my cock before Stahl. That bitch is fucking hideous.
     
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    I kinda got the impression that somehow Kozik took the dog from him. That's what gave us all the impression it was a girl.
     
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    holy fucking shit. That was an epic ending.
     
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    Speechless after that. The music really complimented the episode, better than most anything I can think of.

    Was that the season finale AND the series finale? If so, wow what a way to end.
     
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    Damn you people. Seriously considering taking the rest of the afternoon off work so I can download this episode
     
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    You'll shit yourself at the climax just before the end.
    I really thought Unser was going to take his life when he put his badge and service Glock on the desk and then pulled out his revolver. Did not see that ending coming at all.

    Holy fuck they already signed for a season 4. Holy fuck. To quote Team America, "Jesus titty fucking Christ".
     
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    When Unser pulled out that gun and put his stuff on the desk I thought he was gonna blow his brains out, but when he left and you saw him pull up behind the ATF, I he Unser was gonna take out Jimmy/Stahl and the other ATF agents.

    I also thought the guys on the bus got one of the letters and were going to hide out and next season was gonna be jax and them vs. Clay and the rest.

    Thank fucking Christ Opie finally got his revenge. So fucking awesome.
     
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    Fuck me running. Pretty epic ending.

    Glad Chibs and Ope got some closure. Flanagan and Hurst performed wonderfully. Hurst especially. That dude doesn't get enough respect.

    I also thought Unser was about to swallow a bullet. I then thought he was going to make stahl, et al. swallow them. Glad that he made it out alive though.

    As for the rest I am sort of pissed off. I fucking hate when shows, stories, whatever hide a major component of the story that should have been revealed like the club decision for Jax to play rat. It seems amateurish to me. I understand why Sutter had to do it, but he is wanting to have his cake and eat it too. I'm just being hyper critical though.

    And I concur about the music. Wonderfully done.
     
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    The word gets thrown around a lot but, EPIC. Sure there were holes and whatnot but I don't see how they could have ended it any other way. Completed this seasons story line with the club more or less intact, Unser back in the fold, and kept the overall story arc going with the sons headed for a prison term, Gemma and Abel out of harms way, The coming conflict with Jax and Clay, and Tara finding the letters from John. With all the 2 and a half men style shit on TV these days, I could not be any happier with this show. Fuckin' Bravo.

    (and I am totally looking forward to finding out more on that Tig-Kozik-dog thing)