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Elephants and Jackasses...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Nettdata, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. Crown Royal

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    Jackson was the worst president America had as a person. And he’s on your money. Garfield was probably the best.
     
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    I think Assange is an asshole, but the reaction to the 2016 leaks will never stop being surreal to me. It was the most important release wikileaks ever did, and it's the only one people (at least on the left) are furious at him about. He had a role in exposing people in power for the pieces of shit they are... and they're upset about it. It's fucking insane. How are you not more pissed off at the people he exposed??? People are more angry about Hillary getting caught than what she got caught for.
     
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    I've read some convincing arguments that it was Wilson.
     
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    Best or worst?
     
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    Worst person to be President. Basically the argument was that he was a horrific racist and a borderline fascist, and put a great deal of effort into both.
     
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    Buchanan is considered the worst usually. Sat back and did nothing while the country tore itself apart over slavery. Then handed the problem to Lincoln.
     
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    Worst President, yeah it's usually Buchanan. Worst person to be President gets a lot more interesting responses.
     
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    Also wonder how that debate would look if the Internet and social media was around for everyone. Just the difference between the amount of info out there from Obama to trump is crazy. The leap between bush to Obama was mind blowing.
     
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    Oh I see. Yeah, I would probably put Woodrow Wilson up there. He is probably one of the primary reasons the southern states currently still romanticize the Confederacy, their flag, and built statues to confederate soldiers, etc. That had all but disappeared and he campaigned to memorialize it. He also went out of his way to de-integrate federal agencies and offices as well as openly promoted reprisals against German American citizens up to and during WWI.
     
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    Did he not say that segregation was the key to avoid friction between races?

    And that man has a Nobel Peace prize.

    Still, Jackson murdered people with his own hands. That has to count for some street-cred.
     
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    Yes, but if people are taking the narrow view of judging historical figures entirely by the evils of their times we have presidents that owned slaves. Many historians rank Wilson among the best US presidents. I've seriously never seen the idea that he was among the worst as a person, or in regards to his accomplishments in office except from SJW puritans.

    That's not to say he never did anything reprehensible, but bullshit he was the worst president in any regard. Even if we're just talking subjectively about repulsive human beings, the motherfucker in office right now has him beat by a mile.

    By the way, he won the nobel prize for laying the foundations of what became the UN. I'm not saying the good washes out the bad, but still, that should count for something.
     
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    But Wilson helped usher in the Socialist nanny state ideas that have turned the government into an uncontrolled leviathan. You can thank him for the income tax and the failed League of Nations that lead to WW2.

     
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    Yeah, I've heard him blamed for WW2, but it makes no sense to me. He was the sober voice at the table and wanted to be far more lenient on Germany, and the other central powers. If you want to blame the allies for starting WW2 I suggest taking a harder look at England and France. The US never even joined the league of nations (thanks to congress) despite it evolving into the UN after WW2. Regardless, he still did lay the foundations even if that success was realized after his death. I'm not going to blame him for the failures of all the other players involved, who maintained a colonial mindset.

    Like FDR, libertarians/conservatives don't like him so much as he was a prominent figure in the transition away from laissez faire economics. Personally, I'm all for government infrastructure and an income tax.
     
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    And this whole time I thought that Warren G. Harding was the worst president... You don't hear much about him, but I had a history teacher in highschool who fucking hated the guy, and let everyone know about it.

    Didn't he open up the floodgates for big-money influencing politics?
     
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    Barr is planning on releasing the 'full but redacted' Mueller report Thursday morning. I have little doubt this will be followed by weeks of spinning things into evidence of collusion that clearly don't indicate that, but maybe with the report (or at least most of it) coming out the end to this embarassing fucktarded saga is finally in sight. Nothing matters anymore indeed.
     
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    I think if the redactions are excessive(they will be), Nadler will drop subpoenas within a day. He’ll get Mueller to go before the committee and probably Barr as well.
     
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    I guess their reasoning at this point is that they can't make bigger fools out of themselves than they already have.
     
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    Regarding the redactions, I've read a few reports indicating that the sources (WH people who gave info for the report) are shitting bricks that they'll be named or otherwise identified sans redactions, and daddy trump will give them a spanking for fulfilling their legal obligations.

    Kinda funny I think.
     
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    I’m sure it will be a full report in the same way that abstinence is a sex position.
     
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    400 pages is 25 pages in trump units