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 Post subject: Is Sex Addiction a Myth?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:01 am 
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Inspired by this story. You could certainly use the Tiger Woods saga as well.

But I see these guys and I think 'they're basically doing what most guys would do given the chance.'

So I started wondering, is sex addiction a myth? We all like sex, well, except for my wife. What would lead you to believe you had a problem? And if you do have a problem, is it no more than poor impulse control? I seriously am asking, because this is one 'addiction' that I don't quite get.

Focus: What do you think sex addiction is? When does it become more than the typical problem (i.e. cheating on your significant other, etc.). I'm really interested to see what the ladies have to say about this, but male viewpoints are certainly welcome.

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 Post subject: Re: Is Sex Addiction a Myth?
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There are only two things in this life you can't have enough of... money and sex.

Saying you are addicted to either is like saying you are addicted to air...

The "Tiger Woods saga" wouldn't be a story if Tiger had only followed his father's advice and not gotten married. A single guy getting some on the side is a non-issue. Hell, he'd have been viewed as a hero by every married man in America.

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 Post subject: Re: Is Sex Addiction a Myth?
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There are only two things in this life you can't have enough of... money and sex.

Saying you are addicted to either is like saying you are addicted to air...


Sure, and then one day you find yourself fucking some disgusting 45 year old Denny's waitress, getting syphilis, and still heading back to the same Denny's a week later. . all while crying your eyes out and whimpering "where did you go, Mommy? Where did you go?!?" into your pillow every night.

Not that that's, um, every happened to me.


edit: And an unquenchable thirst for money? Probably not the healthiest thing either, Mr. Burns.


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 Post subject: Re: Is Sex Addiction a Myth?
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The "Tiger Woods saga" wouldn't be a story if Tiger had only followed his father's advice and not gotten married. A single guy getting some on the side is a non-issue. Hell, he'd have been viewed as a hero by every married man in America.


He's a philandering rich golfer...those are a dime a dozen on country clubs across america. No, he shouldn't have gotten married, but what he should have done was, right when this broke, given the press a big middle finger and told them they can go fuck themselves if they think he needs to explain his personal life to them. He'd have been golfing this weekend if he had done that, which is all people SHOULD be concerned with (I'm bitter, I can't stand not watching him golf.)

As far as sex addiciton goes, if you're not selling your blood to have enough money to bang a 43 year old hooker with a C-section scar in Nogales, Mexico, you're probably alright. At least that's what I tell myself....

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 Post subject: Re: Is Sex Addiction a Myth?
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I think it's a reasonable assumption that sex addiction is a real phenomenon. It's listed in the DSM, and I really don't have the expertise to question the whole field of psychiatry. I understand that sex is the most fundamental drive evolution has given us, but addiction strays into territory far beyond having a high sex drive. By the same standard, food: eating is a very fundamental drive to keep us alive, but overeating strays into territory beyond obesity.

I sincerely doubt that's what Tiger Woods has, though. See: "Sex Addiction is a Feminist Victory" And by "see", I mean, "read this if you want to be irritated by someone who thinks that another man's personal life is a victory for her ideology" http://www.slate.com/id/2243481/

I think he's just cashing in on the blanket of "addiction". It's a combination of sublimating personal responsibility for his actions, getting some good PR, and escaping explaining the constant question of why he did it. If we knew more about his personal life, which I don't want to know, we might be able to tell if he actually is a real addict. Other than having a lot of sex and apparently never being monogamous, we've seen no evidence of real addiction.

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 Post subject: Re: Is Sex Addiction a Myth?
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I think it's a reasonable assumption that sex addiction is a real phenomenon. It's listed in the DSM, and I really don't have the expertise to question the whole field of psychiatry. I understand that sex is the most fundamental drive evolution has given us, but addiction strays into territory far beyond having a high sex drive. By the same standard, food: eating is a very fundamental drive to keep us alive, but overeating strays into territory beyond obesity.


I'm not a doctor or have an medical experience but in theory there should be a sex addiction. Having sex releases a fuck ton of chemicals, endorphins and whatnot which all make you feel good. You incredible (almost high) when you have sex, therefore you want more of it and it's not surprising that some people become addicted to it. It's not much different than many drugs, all of which make you experience that incredible rush.

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Other than having a lot of sex and apparently never being monogamous, we've seen no evidence of real addiction.


I would be willing to be that a good 90% of people who claim they have a sex addiction do not. They're weak willed and cannot keep their dick in their pants/legs closed and then use the sex addiction excuse as a scapegoat.

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 Post subject: Re: Is Sex Addiction a Myth?
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I think it's a reasonable assumption that sex addiction is a real phenomenon. It's listed in the DSM, and I really don't have the expertise to question the whole field of psychiatry. I understand that sex is the most fundamental drive evolution has given us, but addiction strays into territory far beyond having a high sex drive. By the same standard, food: eating is a very fundamental drive to keep us alive, but overeating strays into territory beyond obesity.


I'm not a doctor or have an medical experience but in theory there should be a sex addiction. Having sex releases a fuck ton of chemicals, endorphins and whatnot which all make you feel good. You incredible (almost high) when you have sex, therefore you want more of it and it's not surprising that some people become addicted to it. It's not much different than many drugs, all of which make you experience that incredible rush.


Well on a general level, addiction stimulates reward pathways in the brain, i.e. the dopaminergic reward pathway. Whatever stimulates that powerfully enough can be addictive. Not the most scientific source, but I remember reading a National Geographic article about this while searching for some naked native women. If something stimulates your dopaminergic reward pathway and makes you happy, well, you're going to do it. A specific example given was neat freaks - they get a certain reward when they see things all neat and orderly. On the other hand, treatments for addiction have tried to block this pathway - I'm thinking of a particular drug to treat alcoholism whose name escapes me - with only marginal benefit. It's complicated shit.

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 Post subject: Re: Is Sex Addiction a Myth?
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I don't think he's substantially more "weak-willed" than any other man (or woman). He's a good looking billionaire. Probably has pussy thrown at him 24/7. He married one of the best looking ones he could find thinking that it would give him a sense of stability when he wasn't ready to settle down. His story (the cheating side, not the golf-Jedi side) isn't uncommon; it's just shock value because he was the golden boy who could do no wrong... that did wrong. Honestly, I just feel bad for the kids. It sucks going through any kind of messy divorce let alone one with constant press to forever remind you of your Dad's philandering roots.
Hell, if you had the kind of ass falling all over you that he does though- you'd probably be addicted too.

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Compared to older generations of wealthy golfers, I think Tiger is a victim of cellphones and 24-hour media scrutiny, nothing more.

If you fuck around with people way below your standards and it jeopardizes your health or other aspects of your life, I'd say you have a bad habit. I wouldn't compare it to heroin. I'd compare it to a "runner's high": more a feature than a bug, as long as you're not leading a double life, degrading yourself, or jogging barefoot across used syringes. If you just love to fuck per se, it's not that hard to keep it in balance.


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I hate that I'm admitting this, but I've been to an S.A. meeting or two before.

Those people are sad, sad souls and I have no doubt that they're addicted to some aspect of sex. For some of them (interestingly enough, it was the men that voiced this) it was about their craving for intimacy. They couldn't feel "close" to anyone without fucking them, and once the high wore off they felt lonely again and had to fuck in order to feel "close" again. Some others mentioned an incredibly high sex drive--in fact, two the of people there were chastised for fucking each other when they are supposed to remain celibate. They were all crying, they were all miserable, but they all couldn't stop having sex.

These people, like all addicts, had lives that were absolutely DESTROYED because of their addiction. No family, few friends, and the constant fucking left many of them with diseases and horrible life experiences. It went way beyond "Well, I could tap that ass so I did" and into "I have to tap that ass or I'll slit my wrists later tonight."

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I can add to this more later but I can safely admit that I used to jerk off a lot more than I should. I would jerk off whenever I got bored (which was often). It's numbing sensation and the movie Choke described it pretty much perfectly.

Then again, I'm probably an alter boy compared to some of you depraved fucks.

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I can add to this more later but I can safely admit that I used to jerk off a lot more than I should. I would jerk off whenever I got bored (which was often).


So, you used to jerk off more than you should have? By chance were you, fifteen or so? Holy fucking revelation, man.

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I can add to this more later but I can safely admit that I used to jerk off a lot more than I should. I would jerk off whenever I got bored (which was often).


So, you used to jerk off more than you should have? By chance were you, fifteen or so? Holy fucking revelation, man.


Hey, it constitutes as sex addiction in my book. Specifically porn addiction I guess. I believe it exists, which is the focus of this thread, and it pretty much sucks because it takes away from the joy of an orgasm.

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Hey, it constitutes as sex addiction in my book. Specifically porn addiction I guess. I believe it exists, which is the focus of this thread, and it pretty much sucks because it takes away from the joy of an orgasm.


Out of curiosity, did you let it control your life? Did your day consist of jerking off, going to grab a snack and saying to yourself, as you walked past a mirror gazing at yourself, "I gotta get me a piece of that"?

Unless you're jerking off until your cock is a smoldering pile of raw sausage and you do nothing but masturbate, pretend to live life, beat the bishop, think about the next time you're going to choke the chicken and let the masturbation cycle control your life, I doubt it's an addiction.

Fuck man, I can jerk off three times a day if I had the time to do it. Am I addicted to fucking myself?

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